Make the course gradient graph much more visible

Whoops!! My apologies. It can be difficult to see the full message on the phone if you don’t scroll down far enough or have enough respect to see if there is more words below a break. :sweat_smile:

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I just made the switch from a dumb trainer with a speed meter to a fully smart one and must admit that I am struggling with the hills.

  • First, I just don’t see them coming. So I get regularly get surprised by hills: as I reach for my water bottle for example.
  • Second, I struggle with evaluating their length. So I find myself killing my legs trying to muscle my way through hills that are way too long or kill my momentum changing gears for what turns out to be mare bumps on the road.

It’s ruined my fun to the point that I am starting to think about going back to the dumb trainer.

A short search on Google was unsuccessful in finding methods to read the available info to see the coming hills. I personally like the second graph posted by Shay_Vansover_MyWay (on Oct 18) and feel this would be very helpful to me.

Meanwhile, I would appreciate ways to handle the currently available info in Zwift. Is there anything else than the minuscule gradient triangle? How do other users handle hills?

Sorry to hear you are losing some of your Zwift enjoyment after upgrading to a smart trainer. I think it’s supposed to go the other direction!

First off, what is your Zwift setup? I’m running Zwift on Apple TV and a 50” TV and don’t have any issues seeing the current gradient or the upcoming changes in grade on the mini map in the upper right of the screen. On a smaller screen, though, I’m sure it is more difficult. I can also get a reasonable idea of how long a climb is by seeing where my icon is on the course profile at the bottom of the mini map. Again, probably harder on a small screen.

Also, I’m not sure how long you’ve been using Zwift but, in my experience, after you ride each route a few times you should have a reasonable idea of when the climbs are coming and how long they are. If you’re not there yet, maybe give it a bit more time. And there are some climbs (both directions in Titans Grove, for example) that show the remaining distance for the entire timed portion of the climb. Maybe start with those for a while.

Good day,
First off, thank you for all the new changes and updates. We as users are really feeling the love!

I’ve been doing a few races and rides and found that the top right corner does not always show the current route’s incline. Instead it shows the “standard” or “default” incline of that map.
This can mess with your race if you’re as inexperienced as I am. I use that information to know when to save energy and when to push(especially since I’m using a dumb trainer-keeping up to smart trainers at inclines takes some practise).
I understand that Zwift does not know which route you’ll take, but you will always select a certain route, and it should display that route’s incline. With group rides and races there are no way to go off-route in any case.

I’ve found it mentioned briefly in the forums, but it never got an answer:

Now off to get my steering sorted before my ride!

This definitely need to be done. I think ZWIFT should offer, if not custom displays, like 3-4 different dashboard setups, for different type of riders. Races or not races, etc… The current grade indication is too small, the profile is also small and it should be exagerated a bit to also see the small downhill or flat sections.

Maybe in a kom section the dashboard could change. It should be fun made, a bit gamy, and maybe an option for less gamy users… or just ask the user to change sizes of certain things, depending of their use on zwift.

Its a bummer that we still wait for these changes. IRL i have a GPS device which can display everything i need. Simply vote here. :pray:

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Zwift have recently added power output and heart rate graphs to the foot of the display and these are EXCELLENT. I think that they could capitalise further on this as follows:
Currently these two graphs progress from left to right, until they reach the right hand side and then start to feed/walk to the left. My suggestion would be to limit the graphs to somewhere between a third and halfway across the screen, and put the course elevation profile as the backdrop to them and make that full width. This should work because power and heart rate will logically follow the elevation profile. And with the graphs stopping part way across the user will clearly see the elevation profile ahead of them. Keep it clean and if you must show other riders then limit it to just the one ahead and the the first chaser behind.

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Do you mean the stuff at the bottom of this picture? If so this has been there for ages. You can press “G” to bring it up or make it go away.


It looks a little different in my screenshot - but yes the heart rate and Wattage graphs at the bottom of the screen

Your graph just shows that you were putting out more effort during that portion of the ride. Mine was from a Z1 cool down post DIRT Cup race.

This function has been here for ages.

Bottom example instead of power graph "G’ on keyboard. Have another key tied to the profile ‘P’ for example. That way i can choose depending on the type of ride i want to achieve.

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P is used already for codes, is it not? Maybe there needs to be an option for custom key mapping?

Personally I cannot be bothered by the rider list on the right, could be much less from my point of view. That would make room for a more detailed graph on elevation. Especially during free rides it is very useful to know what is coming up

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The only time that I really care about that rider list is in a race to see when someone dangerous is making a big move. Even then my reaction is a couple seconds behind due to game lag and such, generally speaking this is still a very basic gaming function that is missing.

I would love if the bottom power graph could be changed to a rolling gradient graph of the next 1km, 5km, 10km. Optimally, the user could choose the distance. The entire route may be too long.

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I would love to be able to control/configure any of the HUD. :joy::sweat_smile:

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I am a new Zwift user, and I have definitely wanted to know when a hill was coming up, or when a climb would end.

But I can wish for this all day when I am out on the road, but I only know what’s coming by riding up there and finding out.

So I figure I will learn these courses just like I know my roads, and I will know when the hills are coming and how long they will last. That said, I voted for this.

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finally it’s out:
www.zwiftgradientgraph.com

Haha that’s just mean.

Please add me to the list of customers that just hate the gradient graph. It was good when I first used Zwift a few years ago, then it changed and it’s useless. I ride with an iPad and really don’t want to invest in a huge screen to see the ridiculously small gradient graph. I really don’t think the people that made this decision can possibly use Zwift on a regular basis, or this wouldn’t have happened. It just blows. If the real estate on Zwift is too precious to add the graph back, how about giving us a gradient screen on the companion app.

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