Nobody knows except Zwift and they’re not talking about it.
yeah its annoying how slow things move on, it took years to get what we have on the app but it should have moved forward by now. I think we are very patient really.
I think given that a rough ETA of a year was given in January of 2023 by a Zwift staff, I think the title of this threa is probably closer to the truth than advancement any time soon. That may be a pessimistic view, but there’s been no news on this front in a very long time.
As someone returning back to Zwift in a push to loose weight and get fitter the new features from a couple of years ago still not being matured is disappointing and a little worrying (do I want to buy lock in equipment on platform so stagnant??).
Also the complete lack of Zwift staff engagement is not a good look
Hello Hello?
Is there anybody in there?
Just nod if you can hear me.
Is there anyone at home?
I’m realy feeling down that there is not even the slightest development over here.
When can we expact some movement, like a full workout library, most probably the simplest change.
Winter season starts again for a large group of riders, like our small triathlon club.
Our weekly interval-training still has to be done via a meetup (complicated and a lot of work every week to invite all the members to the meetup) for there is a only a cripled library of workouts.
Why??
So once again ….
Hello, is there anybody out there???
Seems like such an easy low hanging fruit… can’t believe it hasn’t been done already…
yep shame we have had no clubs updates in years. it would be such a win for the community.
You can contact events team if you want to setup a weekly event and supply them the workout file. saves the meetup invite faff
Yeah, somewhat surprised clubs haven’t gotten any investment at all, I’m not sure why they are so limited in terms of workouts.
clubs are the heart and sole of Zwift, they really need to improve it, there is so so so much they can do with clubs.
In years, there hasn’t been any statement from Zwift on this topic — seemingly unaware of how much potential they’re wasting here
If only they understood that it is the community that is the primary factor in the user’s decision on whether or not to stick to the platform. 
you are so correct, I only use Zwift because of the community and clubs.
I originaly wrote this in the Feedback-section of the forum, but it was moved/merged to the Clubs-section, appearently Feedback is not wanted.
Winterseason started and every week I’m looking forward to ride together with my fellow Zwifters. Sometimes just a ride, sometimes a race, sometimes a workout, but riding regularly.
This is great, but here is one thing that is bugging me for a long long time.
Years ago I’ve been riding my @#$ off to be able to start a Zwift-club, I’m the trainer for a local triathlon-club and the promise to be able to train together with my teammates within a Zwift-club made me get on the bike every day to gain enough progress to level up so I was able to register our club as a Zwift-club. Then I pushed all our members to join the Zwift-club so we could ride and train together, especially do workouts together and they did.
And now years later….they are part of the roster of the club and we train together, do workouts together, but not via the Club.
No, every week I search and select a workout, create a Meetup (not via Club but via Events) select every individual participant, select, “Keep everybody together“ and “Meetup-up only view“ and so on to organise the group-workout. Participants then join the meetup, have to search and manually select the workout and then if everybody is on time, we can start together doing what we love to do, cycling in Zwift.
This is a very cumbersome, overly complicated process that takes a lot of time and should not be necessary. There are, of course, workouts to be done via the Club, but this is just a very small subset of the total workout-library that Zwift has. So we have to use meetups instead of club-workouts
Why???
And this has been bothering me for years.
I really can’t think of any reason why clubs can’t have access to the complete workout-library. Why only a small subset? It can’t be that complicated to give us access to all the workouts. So what’s the reasoning behind this crippling of the club’s functionality?
You made clubs so we would ride and train together, to create social engagement. You stimulated loads of people to start or join a club, you gave us workouts, first a couple, then some more and then, then you abandoned clubs. No new functionality for years, no reaction in the club-forum section. Nothing……
So long story, short…
I really like Zwift and ride a lot on Zwift. I see a lot of progress, sometimes small, sometimes big and not all changes can be to anybody’s liking, I get that. But sometimes I have the idea that there is going a lot of development time to little, insignificant features. Things that are nice but definitely not meaningful, more like window dressing. And to little developers are put to the task of basic fundamental functionality, like having a complete and consistent workout-library throughout the whole Zwift ecosystem.
Please give so love, time and attention to Club’s, thank you.
Agree, group workouts that could leverage any workout would probably be the number 1 thing that Clubs would be useful for, and this has been asked for for a long long time. The current implementation is a crippleware-type functionality. For whatever reason though, Zwift has abandoned Club development, and won’t at all engage on the topic.
My guess is there is some view that Clubs are anti-social and threaten the platform’s ethos.
I get the view that hiding the best content from new users in closed groups isn’t ideal, and messaging is always something they worry about.
I have that worry about racing, where at the moment much of the best racing is all in things you have to navigate (trip into?) the clubs/teams world to get at - Ladder League, ZRL, DRS, TTT, etc.
I’ve not pushed moving to vELO for race categorization because we can’t do it practically in publicly enter-able races and being discoverable for new riders/races is important in my opinion.
I get the view that hiding the best content from new users in closed groups isn’t ideal, and messaging is always something they worry about.
A meetup with “Meet-up only view“ is just as closed as a club ride/workout and messaging can take place anywhere. So that can’t be the argument to stop development for clubs.
Clubs aren’t anti social or a threat to the platform’s ethos, on the contrary, they are a great way to train and bike with the people you normaly see a lot less in the winter season, to socialy interact, to challenge each other, to have fun.
As described, creating a Meetup and doing individual invitations seems to be a good amount more work than a Club event would be, so there’s a built-in disincentive to meetups and therefore not likely to attract mass adoption.
The dilemma that Zwift might be facing is whether making it easy for more riders to do private club events and therefore not populate the low-attendance community organized public events, is preferable to not developing further the capabilities available to clubs and thereby make public event attendance more likely.
Of course, just speculating as no input from Zwift is available.
Unfortunately, Zwift hasn’t communicated anything about this for years. Apparently, the developers responsible for the club features were let go a long time ago. Zwift never really recognized the potential of such team and club functionalities. Now, more and more other platforms are doing exactly that.
And this is excactly the problem, no communication.
I wrote my comment in the feedback-section of the forum and its gets moved/merged to the club-section, where there is no action, no reaction none whatsoever for years. On one hand I get that (the merging of topics), but on the other, I don’t. I explicitly wrote it in the feedback section, to give and to get feedback
Zwift asks us feedback, but than do something with the feedback… communicate.
Be open en transparent what your goals and targets are. And if there is no goal or if you don’t see a future with clubs that’s also good. Oke wasted potential and we have to use the meetup workaround for ever, but at least it’s a clear answer. So we don’t have to wait and hope for some progress or development in the future. Like I said before not all choises can be to everybodies liking, I get that. But it would be nice to know if a choise is made and what the outcome is.
It’s better for your topic to get merged with this one so it alerts all the people who have ever expressed interest here. I agree with your other points. The comments here are feedback too and will be seen by the staff so don’t worry about that part.