As Strava is removing Segment leaderboards for free users tonight, Zwift should implement that very soon, else we can’t track anymore which were our fastest times on segments / routes / sprints / KOMs. I never understood this 30 day limitation, even if there are changes to the route like the jungle surface, this could be reseted. Strava was a good workaround for it, but it isn’t anymore with these limitations. I bet there are more users who need this now…
The way I understand it is you will still be able to see your top 10 results on Strava.
It was just a matter of time for this to happen, with Zwifters creating hundreds of similar segments the Strava servers got overloaded.
That would be at least something, but comparing your results would be also nice.
The way I read it is that you get to see the top ten for a segment, not your top ten.
@Jim_Mattson is correct.
Also, Strava is only $5 per month and they are giving you a 60 day free trial right now that you can cancel before the first annual payment of $59.99. I feel it is worth it to subscribe, I’ve been using it for free for 6 years. Time to pay up.
Thanks, for the clarification.
I am mostly only concerned in my own data. Comparing indoor segments with other riders is not really that important since there are to many things the can change.
I did a year of premium and then a year of summit (training and analytics) at $47.99. A 25% increase in the subscription fee for no added value doesn’t seem worth it to me.
I’m new here, I dont post a lot but i read a few threads here and there. Struggling to get over the sense of entitlement and lack of plain old courtesy in this one though.
So a separate platform changes their subscription model and the first thing you do is more or less demand Zwift fix this, without so much as a please or thank you…?
I’ve been checking out all the features today that come with the free trial, and it is pretty nice! Things that I didn’t have access to before the changes like goal setting for specific segments, weekly/annual goals, power goals, the new automatic route suggestion tool, deeper dive into my analytics, etc. are worth the $5 per month to me. And I can’t wait to try the live segments on my Wahoo Bolt next time I ride outside when the rain finally stops here.
I guess I’m just jaded. Most of the things you list I was already getting for $47.99/year, with the exception of the automatic route suggestion tool and live segments, neither of which is particularly useful to someone who doesn’t ride outside. It’s hard to get excited about paying an extra $12/year for features I will never use.
It’s not Zwifts fault, that’s true, but I don’t get why this is not implemented yet and why as a 30 day solution. It’s not very much effort to do it. It would be an easy win. Don’t get me wrong, I like Zwift, but there are some things I just can’t understand.
You won’t get “downhill” Segments. Strava says any Segment that has .25 downhill overall won’t sync over as a Live Segment. Yes, that is POINT 25.
Golden Cheetah is a good tool for tracking your own data, and it does support segments.
LOL - That is what I use.
I am in the process of making all the Zwift insider segments, it is a bit tricky to get exactly the same start and stop points.
Me too! (I just started.) Today I did The Mall Sprint Reverse, the Keith Hill KOM, and the Keith Hill After Party.
I’m not trying to match Zwift Insider exactly. Instead, I’m trying to match the in-game start and end markers. I use the lap button on my Garmin head unit to mark the points I’m interested in.
Cool Gerrie & Jim, is there a way for you to share the segment info that you are creating in Golden Cheetah please. About all I use Strava for is the segment mapping piece as Ive starred all the Zwift Insider ones along with a couple they dont have like Subway Stairs and some other folks attempts to recreate the NY Sprint and other sprints that are too short . I can still get for each activity which I integrate into an analytics app I wrote but being able to eliminate that entire step would be awesome.
Admittely all I do is let Golden Cheetah process the file and post the metrics in their .csv and then use their summary in my app.
Thanks for both of your hard work.
Sure. I don’t see a way to export routes from GC, but it looks like the routes get stored in config/routes.xml, which is straightforward to parse.
@Jim this can be a community effort to create every Zwiftinsider segment.
I think we should start a google dock or something to make a database.
I have imported 219 Zwift Insider Strava segments to Golden Cheetah as activities. Now, I just have to convert them to routes.
Wow you are quick. I only have Watopia done.