“Quatch Quest” was the last of what Zwift Insider labels a “4-bidon” route and I was stoked to see it part of ToW 2023 - I just finished it. (not a strong climber - not a climber at all - so this was a long, slow route for me)
I will not feel unfulfilled leaving the Watopia “Pretzel” routes and Four Horseman forever un-done. (PRL Full is a “maybe” as I didn’t mind the Half - short climb x11 and resting on the descent is less of a slog than AdZ)
Zero shade on AdZ itself - it’s a masterpiece of design and the custom “sector progress” on the left and expanded map to the right are just stellar - but I am fried right now.
So, anyone else have routes they are fine never touching?
I hear people asking for more long routes (and we have the new 140km Classic Fondo in France) but I’d be fine with more short and medium routes with badges, or any new Challenges.
EDIT - Prize spinner dropped “gloves” again. (+250XP though so I’ll take 'em) Oh! This is my 4th time up Alpe du Zwift so I guess I’ll need to do it at least once more - someday - for the “Avid Climber” achievement.
I’ve done all of the Zwift routes (including the New France Fondo). The only ones I truly try to avoid are any that involve the Radio Tower (I mean ‘Bonus Climb’). I hate that hill with a passion. It’s just a slog that, for me, serves no purpose. And I don’t mind the longer routes, but I’m generally watching a race on GCN+ while riding theses days. I did the French Fondo while watching MSR,and still had well over 2 hours of racing left to watch after I finished.
Adding a bit of a positive spin: some of the most difficult routes have great rewards. Obviously the prize spinner on AdZ, but the whole custom, zoomed in mini-map (which is interactive on many platforms - click and it zooms) and “sector stats” on the left are almost mini-games themselves. Of course there’s the Yeti if you’re lucky or patient enough (you get the very clever “false yeti” at the end of Sector 9, regardless) but rock hyrax near the base are cute, and all the eye candy all the way up.
Not as big a climb but Watopia Epic KOM has one of my favourite views: Col du Zwift. I just can’t say enough positive things about the the work that went into making Watopia beautiful. Even if I never pursue my last five missing badges, there’s lots to enjoy.
I started in March 2022 to train for a long outdoor ride (Vermont Overland) and I found the route badges and XP bonuses very motivating so I did all the long routes except PRL Full in about 6 months, but only once each for most of the big ones. I’d like to reach completion on all the ride badges. It’s too bad that La Reine and Ven Top don’t have segment visuals in the game like AdZ. And more new roads would certainly help make more new routes appealing.
Zwift is really skewed towards people wanting to do shorter route.
Makuri has 8 routes that are 5 miles or under, I’m never going to want to ride those, there are loads that would take up to 40 or 45 minutes but very few that take 1 to 2 hours.
I like to ride for about an hour and a half and i am pretty bored of the selection. Making it easy to go from one route to another in game without having to exit and reload a route would help. If I could line up 2 or 3 routes and when i finish one the other starts automatically that would be really good. Even if it saves and starts a new ride each time i don’t really care but i know that would annoy the people who like to have one massive ride on their strava or whatever.
They all serve as carrots to keep you on your bike.
I went route badge hunting a few years ago after I had finished the 3 challenges.
I think that’s a normal progression.
I have yet to complete Full PRL and the Uber Pretzel.
My current carrots are workouts, racing and try to improve specific time/power intervals that I hope will help IRL.
IRL I seldom ride 2 hours so I tend towards shorter Zwift rides.
But, there’s still a few route carrots…
I decided to do all the routes in my first season with Zwift (including the pretzels, PRLs, 4-horsemen etc.). I chose to do the last few long ones once per week at the end of the season (shortest to longest) as my one long ride for the week in preparation for heading back outdoors once the weather turned nice.
Would I have done those routes if there were no badge? Probably not. Would I do them again? Maybe if there’s a specific event associated with them, but I don’t normally want to be 5+ hours on the trainer at once.
Personally when I’m asking for longer routes I’m asking for routes that are about 90mins-2hrs ish without repeated segments to keep things interesting. I am not asking for more 5-6hr rides.
The one badge remaining that I’ve currently drawn the line on is the vEveresting badge. I just don’t have the desire to do the training required to be able to sit on the trainer for as many hours as that would take me. I could probably do a half Everest without much of a problem (so if there was a badge for that I might try it for the heck of it), but full Everest would be a problem for me I imagine, so it’s the one badge I’m not specifically working on that I still do not have.
Right now I’m in a place where I could spin through Makuri for hours, even doubling back over roads multiple times in the same workout. That world just vibes with me, it’s my first choice for riding right now. (I know, missing a big climb, but still.)
I wouldn’t have thought the downtown stuff would appeal to me, but it really does. Particularly as a contrast with the countryside and islands. And the twists are turns are part of what I like too. Here in Iowa we’re on a grid, so any time there’s a curve in the road I get giddy