Who is using an Elite Justo with Zwift Ride & COG ? Help

Hello there,

Virtual Shifting was working pretty well with my Suito, but wanted to upgrade and got the Justo.

The Gear 1 is way too hard, I cannot handle my usual 90 / 100 RPMs during the workouts warm-ups. Of course, changed the trainer difficulty and all the basic things, moved to Shimano shifting type… Same and speed 24 is way too hard.

To reach my usual 90 rpm, I need 160 watts at Gear 1 - this is crazy, it feels like Gear 12 / 13.

With my Suito I could easily have the speeds to climb and go high with high RPMs without pushing that much power to reach the 90 RPM. The virtual shifting was perfect. . So disappointed to have made a upgrade and at the end works worst than the Suito (it had other problems with noise).

I could aliso feel the difference from one shifting up & down which is no more the case.

I am in touch with Elite Customer care and also Zwift. Nothing works.

Be sure, I did all possible workarounds, firmware upgrades, fresh reinstallations… I am lost.

Any help would be appreciated !

Many thanks

How many teeth are on the Cog you are using? Are you using the Elite-specific 18 tooth cog, or the normal 14 tooth model? How big is the chainring you’re using on the bike and do you have the option to go smaller?

I have the Zwift ride, elite Zwift COG 18 teeth.

It was working perfectly with an elite Suito.

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I run a Justo with virtual shifting. Not using the Cog, but I put my bike in my 19-tooth cog on my cassette so basically the same. I don’t experience anything like you’re saying. On the contrary - on flats, I have to get to about gear 11-12 at a 90 cadence in order to feel increased resistance.

Thank you. I am using the Zwifr ride with COG so not the same set-up/.

Happy that it work for you, for me it’s a nightmare (over 1700 euros for a indoor set-up and cannot use it, even the refund for the Just is challenging).

It’s almost the exact same setup, 18 v 19 tooth. There is no difference between a Zwift Cog and a cassette left in the same gear.

So, I have a problem and neither Elite & Zwift can help. It is not normal at all that I need 160 watts at gear 1 to reach my usual 90 rpm.

Does the Justo work ok with a cassette on it, without virtual shifting?

yes, but I bought the Zwift ride / COG to use the virtual shifting feature.

Are you using the small chainring in the front? That should lover the minimum watts you need for 90rpm.
I have the Justo 2. And with around 85rpm in the small 34 tooth chainring in front and 18 teeth Zwift cog, i get around 85 - 90 watts as minimum. With the large chainring i get around 120-130 minimum at 85rpm.

I dont know if using a regular cassette in the back, and a larger cog would be beneficial.

Just my 2 cents…

Thanks, this is helpful.

I have the Zwift ride bike, single 42T chainring and 18T cog and I need like 160 watts to reach 90 rpm at the « easier » virtual gear.

definitely a problem, but I don’t get the expected support from Elite / Zwift. 2 weeks now… nothing is happening even the refund is complicated

With the Ride you do have the option to use a third party single speed conversion cassette with a cog of your choosing. You’ll want one designed for a 3/32" narrow type chain, not 1/8" single speed chain. Might also need to replace the chain if you increase the cog size significantly. I agree it’s odd that the trainer is listed as compatible/supported for use with the Ride if it behaves that way, but you should be able to make it better.

Thank you Paul, now I can see a way to resolve this issue with the staging of the gears.

Gonna get a single speed conversion kit with couple of cogs (likely 22T / 24T or even 26 T) to figure out what would fit the best.

If the chain needs to be changed, it should not be a big deal.

As you said, this is odd as I purchased a « ready to use » kit.

Again, thanks ! Will keep you posted

So here we are… chain is too short. I cannot find information related to the Zwift ride chain length.

what length should I consider for a cog of 24 or 26T ?

this a hassle to fix. Elite trainer Zwift / virtual shifting ready :pensive_face:

Here’s some info about the chain

I managed it, but I would not say that it was easy and still need to fine tune the alignment. But Thank you, with a 24 speed COG…. I can eventually reach 90 rpm under 90 watts :blush: . Will also try a 26 speed.

Not as good as my experience with the Suito, I could feel each gear but I can live with it as the Justo is so far silent and need to get used to it.

Crazy that they are selling a 18 speed Zwift COG “Elite” for the Justo.

Paul, thank you ! You helped me a lot :sign_of_the_horns:

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