Wahoo Kickr v5 virtual shifting [ April, 2024]

I hope it comes out soon, we have been waiting for quite some time now for something that sounds like a lot of copy pasta. I guess business gets in the way and not the technical requirements.

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waiting for this update to be available. Had a V5 and hoped to use it with Zwift Ride. Of course zwift would pair to it, but the controls on the Ride would not. After beating my head against the wall, I realized that I had a trainer that wasn’t the newest V6, even though I bought it in 2023. Must have been old stock or something. So I was more than disappointed that the Ride frame and controls wouldn’t work. Using the KICKR CORE now and Ride works fine.

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dcrainmaker wrote:

“That’s sounding increasingly challenging, due to running out of memory space in the V5 firmware.”

I’m afraid that’s not an excuse wahoo.

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Oh boy that sounds bad!

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Did you have direct contact with the beta tester? Is this just third-hand hearsay?

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Boooo :-1::-1::-1:

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:-1: old kickr core that has been around for ages: no problem.

Recent kickr v5 which has the same/equal chipset: no can do.

Smells like a scam to up the sales on new models!

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Doesn’t sound like a scam to me. The V5 firmware has a different feature set from the Core, so it’s plausible that the Core firmware will fit while the V5 firmware will not, when virtual shifting is added. They may have been faced with the prospect of removing other features. If they’d understood that when they started work on it, they would not have made a public announcement about adding it. What’s really unfortunate is that they communicated their intent to add it and then didn’t deliver.

I’ve been waiting for the idea of ​​a virtual gearbox. However, I didn’t think that Zwift would come up with it in such a way that changing gears would be the responsibility of the trainer and Zwift. It’s a sick system. I thought he would do it on the Zwift side. Just as Erg holds power, you can also simulate runs. If the gear change is on the trainer side, I don’t understand why it’s connected to Zwift. wahoo should make their own shift button. I recently changed the trainer to Kick v5 with the intention of using it for a long time. Now I’m wondering what to do again. wahoo should upgrade the electronics from v5 to v6 for purchase.

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Looks like case closed v5 won’t be getting update.

Bought the cog & click in anticipation for the V5 update. Looks like i wasted my money. Been told no update coming. Looks like a scam to get people to buy a new trainer.

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Agreed, did they same based on there media releases saying they working in it.
Con and scam comes to mind.
Time to get rid of all wahoo product i own.
I support companies with integrity.

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Stupidly inwent outband bought a kickr v6 to resolve.
Guess what, you cant update to the new software with android 13 version.
Pathetic.
Really ??

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This is a problem with Samsung phones I believe. Not specific to Wahoo. Does v6 have WiFi? If you can still connect it to WiFi and leave it plugged in overnight I think it will automatically update firmware over WiFi? Or do you have a nice neighbour with a iPhone??!

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See Wahoo’s FAQ on this -
Firmware update failure with Samsung phones on Android 13. – Wahoo Fitness Support

My local public library would let you update it on an iPad. Check with yours.

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Now that Wahoo has confirmed there will be no update (see Wahoo’s support page on “Zwift virtual shifting with Wahoo smart trainers”), I would really like to see Zwift or one of their paid partners (e.g., GP Lama, Zwiftcast, ZwiftInsider) explain why Zwift cannot make virtual shifting from the client side. If there is a reason it is so hard, Zwift, just explain what that is! A change in resistance is a change in resistance, regardless of whether it comes from the firmware or it comes from the software sending messages to the firmware.

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Of course they could add a feature that lets you simply step the resistance up or down but that’s not what virtual shifting does in Zwift. They chose to implement something more complex. This is the best explanation that I have seen so far (see below). You pick any physical gear you want, Zwift figures out how to place you in the middle of the virtual gear range, and then they replicate the resistance changes based on a specific set of gear ranges so it’s more like the gearing differences on a physical cassette. I imagine this is not satisfactory to people left behind with trainers that don’t support it.

That’s right, what’s the problem with adding or subtracting resistance on the ERG principle for riding. You spin e.g. 200w and set a higher beat, the program adds +50W load. Pure mathematics. I see in zwift here a business between companies producing trainers.