Wishing you a smooth recovery.
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Iāve mostly overlooked the personalized training rec because Iāve been following my own work out because I find that most the plans I see didnāt seem to give me enough recovery between work out days or the actual work out seemed to ramp up the training stress with no clear goal or explanation that I agreed with.
Today, my Zone 2 day, it recommended an endurance workout.
Ok, but does Power Surges for an hour fit that definition?
I did VO2 max intervals yesterday with 2 min 120 % FTP intervals
The recommendation may be a bit off for 61 year old.
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That doesnāt make much sense to me
I would really like to be able to turn āNext Upā off or reposition it in the companion app. It interferes with my use of the companion app while Iām riding.
Really, Iād like to turn it off altogether for my account as I donāt use it.
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Needs an off toggle yesterday. Insanely intrusive, obstructive and annoying. Stop trying to jump on the AI bandwagon and just give us a backside to Ventop and Alpe. Thanks.
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I donāt use it either, but it doesnāt bother me. Does it really warrant all this discussion? Just scroll in by.
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This exactly.
Col de Sarenne, Col du Galibier, Lautaret and Col du TƩlƩgraphe all together. Making some new extreme pretzel routes and Fondo challenges that are properly tough.
But I donāt think youāll get much support. People like AI features more than new mountainous roads. 
Edit: Iād even just settle for the tunnel shortcut to ADZ to be built - skipping the mindless boring 10 minute grind through the jungle on the Road to Sky route.
Or even simpler, have a new start point at the start of ADZ, available to those who have done 50 or more ADZ laps (as the next challenge after the 25x ADZ).
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the issue is the scrolling, it used to be youād load the companion app and see the events options pretty much bang in your face, now you have to scroll down to get past 2 useless features which are the fitness tracker and now the next up āfeaturesā, they could put these on a different page to take up less room but no Zwift UI team want it all on one page for some reason
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I think feedback is important because the AI recommendations are off.
In my case, the assessment seems correct but the recommended workout was not consistent with the AI assessment.
It would be nice to know that the AI tool had reviewed my activities for the past several weeks and made a recommendation based on recent use.
That is also flawed, because I may be doing rides that donāt really advance my goals.
In Nov, I just got back on program and did 3 races a week for 3 weeks while learning how to TTT.
Fun but probably not the best long term plan.
There lays the biggest flaw of this AI tool, it never asks what are my goals.
On the flip side, most cyclists really donāt have clear goals or have difficulty realizing and articulating these goals.
Many cyclist want that one workout that makes them ābetterā.
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the issue is that it only takes data from Zwift itself, that fitness tracker doesnāt know I did a 5km run at tempo yesterday, or any other runs/rides outside because it thinks Iāve not done anything that day because I donāt want my external data mixed up in the Zwift ecosystem/metrics, indoors and outdoors are two separate entities for me, so personally speaking, the next up feature is pretty useless for me, as is the fitness tracker but Zwift wont allow us to remove it from the companion app
feedback has been given since the fitness tracker became available and plenty want the ability to remove it but Zwift are seemingly ignoring all of these requests because they seem to think they know better than the customer
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Zwift are playing a very dangerous game suggesting anything, when riding outside of Zwift is only added to a riderās record if they have rides uploaded to specific branded accounts (Garmin, Wahoo, Hammerhead?) and theyāve been paired with Zwift Companion app.
Even then, it excludes other exercise besides rides.
Suggesting workouts for everyone is quite frankly dumb and some of the examples given in this thread are quite shocking.
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This, I completely agree with. Not sure theyāve considered the potential liability angle.
Interesting to see this same idea was proposed in 2022 as āFor Youā which Carrieās into 2023. Especially of interest is that people mentioned it was way off regarding suggested workouts and nobody really wanted back then. Not surprising then that this is the majority of feedback on this thread 4 years later!
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Yeah but now itās āAIā which everyone, everyone, everyone needs
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My primary issues with this still remain the same as I mentioned earlier:
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It just starts telling you what to do without any sense of what my goals are
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The text and the workout donāt even seem to relate in many cases, and are often completely incorrect (calling anaerobic workouts easy, and vice versa).
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The feature does not feel ready even for Beta in my opinon, even for people who want this type of feature. But since it does not have everyoneās exernal activities it is something people should be able to opt-out of, or perhaps the feature itself should be opt-in.
Butā¦ In an ideal world Zwift would do a pass at the text prompts within the workouts that are in the selection pool to remove āplan specificā verbiage. It really does not feel like a personalized āFor Meā experience when the workout Iām doing is asking me to work on my time trial position for my upcoming time trial race (I donāt even own a TT bike or even aero bars). Yeah this workout was pulled from a TT plan probably, but if youāre going to give it out in general to everyone then that text is not going to feel personal. Also, often text references other workouts in a plan as though you were on the plan, butā¦ youāre not. So that also feels lame.
This is a minor nit compared to the core functionality not seeming to work properly, and how some people donāt even want to do āworkoutsā on Zwift so should be able to opt-out, but if you want this feature to feel like personalized recommendations, then the prompts in the game shouldnāt be talking about a plan that you are not on, or a goal that you do not have (such as TT positioning etc.).
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I suspect they understand their liability better than they understand or accept the goals and preferences of users. Like if their attorneys say they are covered, that doesnāt help me and I still want what I want. Iām in favor of offering an adaptive training suggestion system as an optional thing, Iām also in favor of having a recommendation system that looks at what I do (surprise, itās not workouts!) and suggests things I might like. I only want to turn it off because the system has been designed around incorrect assumptions.
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Last week we got 15 inches of snow, and since then Iāve been cross country skiing. According to Zwift, Iām detraining. Until Zwift can āseeā everything I do, I really donāt want any recommendations about my ātrainingā. Iād like to see a toggle to turn Next Up off.
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Did the TDZ race a while ago on Ocean Lava Cliffside Loop, Intervals tells me some power PBs and an increased LTHR, 96% Intensity.
Iām absolutely knackered after that, wasnāt even sure Iād commit to whole race, felt rubbish on Saturday Tiny Races.
Zwift says, now go do 1hr Tempo Into VO2 Max #1
Behave! 
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Lately Iāve been doing a specific workout on Mondays, a ZRace on Tuesday (preceded by half an hour with coco to warm up), and a longer base ride on Wednesdays and often the same, or a different specific workout, on whatever other days I get on. Instead of anything useful itās been suggesting I free ride No Sleep Til Brooklyn for several days straight now. Like you and Iām sure most, Iād love a competent suggestion system to reduce friction when Iām getting on the bike - but this is Alpha stage at best. Calling it a beta and also forcing it on every user is wild.
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Steve, the system works on the old Prinzip: Hard to yourself, cruel to others!
