New settings for Elite Novo Force

Hey,

I have an Elite Novo Force trainer, according to Zwift, the use of it is only at level 3, out of the 8 available. Is it possible to impelement a extended configuration for example the level 6? It would be really helpful because with the level 3 you have a pretty high cadence even in the highest gear.

Many thanks!
Sebastian

Hi @Sebastian_Hormann

The Elite trainer names in-game may not match the exact name of your trainer. This guide to pairing Elite trainers on our Support site might help you get squared away.

Hi @shooj

thank you for the fast answer. I know that I have to set my elite roller trainer to level 3 for the Zwift Trainer Selection. The problem with level 3 on the roller trainer is that the resistance is very low. This gives me a very high cadence even at low power despite the highest gear on the bike. Now my question was, if it would be possible to implement in Zwift another level, for example 6. This would give me a higher resistance on the roller trainer and I would not have to work permanently with a high cadence. I know I could put my roller trainer at level 6, but my wattage would not be comparable anymore.

I think this post shows exactly what i need:

Many Thank
Sebastian

I don’t recall Zwift implementing higher resistance curves for other trainers, altho it has been ask a few times.

I think this is due to the accuracy of these trainers.

If you have a road bike with a 50-11 gear ratio then you should be able to produce around 350w at 90RPM. With a mountain bike it will be lower due to the wheel size and gear ratio.

Zwift uses their own Power to speed curve but it should look something like this.

Hi @Gerrie_Delport

thanks for the fast respond. I have a mountain bike with the following tire 32-622 (28x1.25) means that I have to choose the tire size 700x32c in Zwift.

I found a level 6 Power to Speed ​​curve for the Elite Novo Force.


Would it be possible to implement this Power to Speed ​​curve in Zwift so that you can choose between the two levels (level 3 or level 6) when selecting the trainer?

Many thanks in advance
Sebastian

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Zwift actually did their own test in house to determine the power curve. I am not a Zwift employee so there is not much I can help with.

So keep this as a feature request. But I don’t think Zwif has any trainer with high resistance settings most are 3 or 4.

The gearing on a mountain bike is not made to go very fast, so that may also be a limiting factor.

Options would be to look for a supported trainer with a higher power curve, most fluid trainers go up high, look at the website where you found the curve for your trainer.

Or you can invest in a power meter (like powertap wheel), then you can use any resistance setting.

Or a smart trainer.

can someone tell me how many blinks i have to set on misuro B+ (elite novo force)

Hi @Nemanja_Jokovic

These should be helpful.

https://support.zwift.com/en_us/pairing-elite-trainers-HJoxNNZer

Hi Sebastian,
I have exactly the same problem with the Novo Force : its almost impossible to hit 180watts @ 60 rpm or variations of thereof, which is frequently asked to be performed on the plan I’m currently using (Build Me Up). Were you able to sove your problem and how?
Best regards,
Georg

Did you work it out?
I have Misuro B+ and a Elite Novo Force 8. I went 1 blink. Zwift seems to find my turbo and am getting rpm data but no watts . also the avatar on the screen never moved! :pensive:

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Gerrie Delport (TeamZF) Thank you for sharing the instructions. I tried 1 blink but who knows. Instructions arent clear :pensive:
Anyway wondered if you can help…
Zwift is reading my Novo Force 8 with misuro b and its reading rpm but wont pick up watts and the avatar on zwift isnt moving? Any idea what I’m doing wrong

HI @Katy_Walker,

I don’t have that trainer, I go by what I have read. But we can try to help you.

what is your setup what do you use to zwift, how do you connect.

Did you pair the trainer as power source.

I don’t think 1 blink is correct but I cant find the number in the Elite.
documentation.

Hi thank you :grin:
I am connecting the power and speed source. It finds my Misuro B sensor and connects to both with Ant + but doesn’t clock any watts when I’m pedalling and the avatar just stays stationary. Appreciate any thoughts

You should not have to connect the speed source if the unit broadcast power. It is either Power or Speed.

See there is different options when you search under power, pick the ANT+ FE-C if that is an option.

Hello @Katy_Walker
I looked at your session logs on our server, and see the Misuro B+ connecting as a power sensor and a cadence sensor, but not as a speed sensor. This would explain why your avatar does not move.

Our support site has a page on pairing Elite trainers, It notes that the Misuro B+ module is compatible only with Elite’s Turbo Muin trainer.

Elite’s technical documents states that the Misuro B+ module supports speed and cadence for their magnetic-resistance trainers, but not power. This appears to confirm why there is partial connectivity to the game.

That said: the PDF on Elite’s site seems somewhat dated. We do know that Elite has been working on a way to update firmware on their smart trainers, but I’m not sure if they’ve gotten around to making this possible for the Misuro B+ / Novo Force 8 models specifically. You may want to contact Elite to ask if that’s possible.

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@shooj
Thank you so much for your detailed response. Super helpful. I read the Elite pairing guide but didn’t really understand what the table is telling me.

I get a power reading with misuro b on MyETrainer which suggests its compatibility with zwift that’s the issue. In a nutshell should I buy a new trainer do you think? Happy to do that but worried i end up with yet another incompatible product. Likewise all of the recommended trainers on zwift are really expensive. Would be really great to get a recommendation for an entry level turbo that works with zwift. I see people have mosted lots of issues with Elite Muin so will stay clear of that. Any suggestions?

Thanks again :grin:

I would suggest contacting Elite and looking on their forums before getting a new trainer.

@Katy_Walker
I agree with Gerrie that contacting Elite would be the best next step. If they can help to sort out their trainer’s firmware to connect properly, that’d be best.

If you decide to take another route, Zwift’s support hub has an extensive list of supported trainers of various types.

Thank you gents for all your help.

Having contacted Elite and got utter nonsense in reply, I have thrown Misuro B in the bin (where it belongs) and bought Wahoo RPM Speed and Cadence Cycle Sensors and attached to my Elite Novo Force 8 zwift after watching this on youtube:

Wahoo RPM Speed and Cadence Cycle Sensors work perfectly and took 5mins to set up and I’m now Zwifting (on my ipad air 2) and its working well :hugs::grin::heart_eyes:

Anyone with an Elite Novo Force 8 and wanting to use Zwift DONT waste your time with Misuro B. Spend the extra £15 and get Wahoo sensors.

Im now a super happy cycling bunny :rabbit:

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You win Quote of the day,

Happy Zwifting!!

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