Did you ask him to ask his team to…do something about it? ![]()
Nope. I ride with him fairly regularly and I don’t want to be That Guy.
Off-topic but casinos love card counters as a rule. Most folk over estimate their abilities and enhance the casino’s bottom line. It feels against the spirit of the game to ban the very few who can card count effectively.
They have actively avoided enforcing any ruleset within community racing.. I dont expect them to find a backbone anytime soon.
I was told there was a female pro cyclist who had been teleporting and descending for something like 11 hours on ADZ - 72m elevation gain. ![]()
When the Pros are doing that as well. Sigh…
Name please… It’s the only way to stop these people name and shame
The more it gets talked about the more people do it.
Same person also doing TT hack too. It’s been reported to zwift via the “Report user” function in Companion App. Does that even get read? Who knows. I was at the Alpe for a climb and witnessed all the dropping shenanigans. Someone I know kept teleporting to me to keep dropping until I politely asked them to stop using me to get their free kms!
That’s not allowed here and will typically be removed. Stopping it is the job of software developers.
As Paul says and as you know from before - I won’t do that.
Today again on Ventop the same teleport to top and drop down games from all the usual suspects was in full swing.
One of them had 55.1km and 19m when I looked. And is now somehow Pace Group A with racing score over 800.
Most definitely not that at all.
If we report users we see doing these exploits / cheats (whatever they are labelled) what actually happens to the report? Particularly as the activities that “exploit” are not saved (does it leave a digital foot print?), though some are saving these activities! Most just look like an average zwifter in their activities etc. But their garage would paint another picture with a lot of fully upgraded bikes. I just wonder if reporting a user is futile!
Just unfollow them if it annoys you that much so they cant teleport to you anymore.
That horse is bolted.
The more it is talked about the more a priority it becomes to be fixed. Ignoring it or hiding from it, means it doesnt get fixed and people can continue to use it in stealth.
There is a reason why Zwift HQ are now trying to shadow ban anyone who talks about fair racing or users cheating.. On the weekend they were shutting down posts on FB about fair racing in the Zracing series.
If they can silence it, they dont need to deal with it.
Well yes, the one I’m thinking of not only saves the activities, but has all these teleports and descent rides on his Strava as well.
That still doesn’t stop them doing it and seeing them day after day doing the same thing over and over, people are pretty cranky about that.
I would be happy with the descents being excluded from counting for distance based upgrades, even though it would impact me badly. My daily rides are about 43km with 1540m+, half the distance is the descent which I’ve earned by suffering up the mountain. But I’ll give away that descent if it closes away that loophole.
I predict al lot of upset users if the downhills km’s dont count anymore. I doubt they will ever take this step and upset probably way more than that are upset at the moment.
All I know is that I have the highest distance on Zwift for a female and I bash out 1000km + a week including climbing. When the bike upgrades were released, I was thinking I would be one of the first females to get a Halo bike, but I won’t be as I am grafting the hard way to upgrade my bikes, and females not pedalling at all will get the Halo long before I do. This is just not fair.
I think it would be fine if zero power resulted in no progress toward the upgrades regardless of distance. You could still soft-pedal down the Alpe, you just couldn’t sit on the sofa watching TV while you teleport up and coast down. I don’t hear any complaints about not getting drops from coasting down the Alpe.
Like Catherine, I find it irritating that riding a lot doesn’t correlate with getting the upgrades more quickly than people who are not riding, and I’m sure that was not the designer’s intent either.
There was alreay a topic about this removed from this forum as well.
And it has been quiet from Zwifts side about this for what … eleven days now since this started.
Biggest thing there is that the downhill loophole was there for years, I have been doing some free downhills for some time when I got a message from a friend when he or she was near the top, and as far as I know there is no rule that forbids you to teleport to someone on a mountain.
Problem we have now is that the programmers came up with a fancy new addition to the game, but they think like programmers and not like gamers and they will upset a lot of paying customers no matter what solution they come up with now.
Would not even surprise me if they close the TT loophole (cant be that hard to make the timer also stop on a TT bike) and leave the teleport as it is and hope people run out of drops or get bored with it.
And be honest, there are not that much people vocal about it, only a few here who are upset and a few on FB. Those are way outnumbered by people doing it if I have to believe the stories. Dont say if that is good or not, but its still a business and the less paying customeres are upset the better.
Zwift has a perception issue - This adds to it, cheating is advantageous on Zwift as Zwift HQ simply dont care about it (iTs OnLy A gAmE!!! etc).
They lose more through that perception than 1 specific incident or action.
The short term view is, its only a few users who might leave from this specific issue, the long term view is, many people leave or dont come back due to cheating being tolerated and fairness being removed from the platform which is something many users want.
Edit to add - IMHO The whole e-sports cycling brand has been damaged by zwift lack of attention of cheating. They are the biggest platform and their lack of accountability has led to the thought process that e-cycling is just a game and cheating is rife… Its no wonder the UCI moved elsewhere, financially incentivised or not.. Not closing these loopholes ensures the perception remains.
I think @Crazy-Cat would still be upset even with this solution but I agree. Close the TT hole by stopping the timer and make downhills count only when there is power.
Still would upset a few people who do actually ride up a hill and think they deserve a free downhill without peddaling but there is really no way to please everyone in this.