They are not remotely equal in terms of features, but if you love the climb then you have to go another way.
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Absolutely! The Victory includes nearly all the features you’d expect from a Kickr v7, while being priced similarly to a Kickr Core -the Victory is intriguing to say the least. However, I’m curious about its reliability and how customer-oriented JetBlack is. Do they offer 24-hour “on the phone” customer support? As far as, I was able to see, they only offer e-mail support. I’ve experienced challenges seeking support for unrelated products and services from Australia -the huge time difference complicating matters for someone like me in the east coast. Wahoo is pretty amazing supporting its trainers.
I don’t know that there are problems with JetBlack support, but they’re a much smaller company who probably aren’t st the scale where they can afford 24/7 support like larger companies like Wahoo or Garmin.
I’d love to hear from JetBlack Volt owners. I remember it had its fair share of issues when it first came out, so I’m curious how the company has handled those and how the trainer performs now.
JetBlack Volt I agree that it is like Wahoo kickr CORE but not like Wahoo kickr v5-v6. These are completely different designs.
(JetBlack Volt -Kickr CORE) only 16% of ascent, 2% of accuracy, and above all those hopeless legs with zero cushioning and no folding of the legs. Wahoo KICKR v5-v6 is a completely different product 20% of ascent, 1% of accuracy which I checked myself with the power measurement, and those legs which are great, they unfold and retract and have nice cushioning from vibrations on the floor.
Not to mention that only with wahoo does kickr CLIMB work.
I think people are drawn to the JetBlack Victory because it offers so many features for just $400—virtual shifting, Bluetooth (BLE) bridging, Wi-Fi connectivity, and even a responsive Race Mode. For the price, it’s hard to beat! Of course, if you’re interested in a feature like the Wahoo Climb, then the decision is straightforward (btw: I’d love to see a Climb 2.0 from Wahoo soon!) wahoo ecosystem all the way.
As for power accuracy, you’re spot on—the Kickr is more precise. Plus, Wahoo’s reliable customer service adds real value to their products, making them a solid choice overall. When purchasing new products, we often underestimate the importance of customer support. However, when issues arise, it’s crucial to have a company that firmly stands behind their products.
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Climb 2.0 I don’t see the point of updating because everything works fine in the current one. I don’t know what would be added or improved.
They do fail a lot. Room for improvement there.
I’ve had mine for 2 years, I’ve ridden a lot. No signs of wear. I’ve never had any binding or problems. I’ve heard of belts breaking. Maybe heavy sprinters experience this.
You’re one of the lucky ones—I hope we don’t jinx you! But the failure rate is quite high. I had one, and it failed after just a few uses, which was disappointing because I really loved the feel. After doing some research, I was shocked by how many failure reports I came across, so I ended up returning it within the 30-day window. Wahoo will replace it for a while, sometimes even after the warranty has expired. However, there isn’t such a thing as a formal “refurbish program” Garmin Style with watches, so if the Climb breaks, money down the drain. I ride too much in Zwift to replace a climb every few years.
Hmm, and out of curiosity, what was going wrong? There is nothing complicated there except the belt transmission and the lifting motor.
This forum and others contain a wealth of anecdotal data. In fact, nearly two years ago, I created a post inquiring about reliability after experiencing a failure in just a few rides. However, the key issues appear to be:
- Encoder
- Actuator
- Motor burnout
- Power Supply
- Belt
By the way, like you, some people report using the CLIMB for years without any issues, while some others have needed multiple replacements within just a year.
Elite’s riser includes steering
…One thing to consider is that the Rizer’s steering feature is not fully compatible with Kickr and Neo trainers due to the absence of a rotating rear axle mount.
Separate gradient control, so the Climb can still respond to gradient changes during workouts in ERG mode.
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Strange, however, they rather held back v7. They are releasing the ACE computer in the winter and the new trainer in the spring. Someone has had a good drink of vodka there at wahoo.
Agreed! They must be dealing with something behind closed doors because it doesn’t make sense to release a new computer in the winter. Also, the V6 has been out of stock a few times, and they’ve lowered the price of the Move (twice) to match the V6, likely to reduce inventory. It’s possible that the JetBlack Victory has disrupted the market.