If you’re French, you’ll maybe think that this statement is incorrect, because New Caledonia is France.
Hopefully a French Zwifter will weigh in with an opinion.
If you’re French, you’ll maybe think that this statement is incorrect, because New Caledonia is France.
Hopefully a French Zwifter will weigh in with an opinion.
There’s another little island in the South Pacific, between the islands they use for Makuri and Watopia. I’d love to see them ditch the idea of using actual gps coordinates for some of these smaller worlds, pick them up, and put them together on that little island. Have a little tunnel that links the small worlds together, so there’s still some distinction between them. But that solves the Strava concern, because they are all in the same geographic space. London, Yorkshire, Scotland, Richmond, Innsbruck, Bologna; move them all to the Pacific and link them together.
France should continue to be expanded, and Paris should be picked up in the same way, and moved to France. Why have a “world” with one clockwise / counterclockwise lap in it? Connect it to the rest of France. And then as @marblehead pointed out, there’s a built in reason to expand France every year. All cyclists’ eyes are on France anyway; roll out some new roads. Put another mountain climb in there. Expand on it to build enthusiasm for the Tour de France Femmes.
So you have 4 distinct worlds. Watopia, Makuri, France, and UCI-Land.
Yes, that’s my area where I ride.
I’d like to see further south to get Col de Bonnette included as well, also the climbs down towards Nice (maybe even including Nice).
Bonette could be the mega climb in Zwift (it’s the big one IRL). Anyone who rode it IRL or in Fulgaz understands.
NY doesn’t need to go to the bin, it just needs a bit of gravel goodness for the perimeter roads. The glass roads are the fast surfaces, the lower ground level should be gravel like what you’d find in some real parks.
NY currently is missing gravel and the gravel lovers woukd be extremely pleased with this change.
I’m also for Innsbruck getting properly expanded into its own bigger world pulling in the areas around Innsbruck and maybe south towards Vipiteno or even Brixen.
Climbs:
Reith bei Seefeld
Timmelsjoch
Kühtai Sattle
Passo monte Giovo
Brixen-Plancios
Passo Della Erbe
Passo san Pellegrino
Passo Gardena
Passo Sella
Passo Valles
Passo Di Lavazè
Passo Costalunga
Passo Fedaia
Passo san Boldo (with the tunnels)
That would be a huge world but beautiful and lots of tough riding.
but Central Park doesn’t have gravel roads IRL… I’d much rather see an expansion through Manhattan, zipping down 5th ave to Times Square, then loop out to the Statue of Liberty, dodging taxis and pedestrians to utilize steering, maybe create a mini-game where you are a bike messenger, take McDonalds to Trump tower or something
but we can all wish in one hand and $hit in the other and see which one fills up first…
+1 for NYC in the bin. Leave it as is and build out Richmond, Innsbruck, Bologna, France, etc. better yet, merge the worlds/events worlds.
We stayed in the Saint Remy de Maurienne area about 5 years ago and fell in love with the area. My daughter is named Madeleine after the climb.
I also insisted driving through Briançon and over Bonnette on the way to Nice, so I would 100% support this.
If expansions keep being tiny then I’d rather have them tacked on to a larger world, but if they added 30k of new roads I’d be happy to have it in any world.
Briançon lovely place (I stay up in Saint-Chaffrey up the road). Bonnette is one heck of a fast descent down to Saint-Etienne de Tineé. I had a Giant TCR Advanced SL1 (2014 version) up over 80km/h even with my relative lack of gravity assistance. If you got it wrong it’s a very long way down over the edge.
When we were lucky enough to visit, I wanted to take on Larry Warbasse’s KOM but we spent too much time in Brainçon and couldn’t ride before the flight out of Nice. Got to check out the WW1 bunker at the top though while it was raining outside.
With France, they need to add some fun and a reason to ride Ventoux.
Look how many people rode the Big Spin. Ten times above expectations!
So, put a prize at the top that changes every month.
New jersey, new paint job, tron helmet, a pass into a velodrome/private island.
There’s no need to expand these worlds when you can make them better.
I couldn’t disagree more, at least for what I want out of Zwift.
I rode the Big Spin 2x. Wheels that I’ll never use, and a bike I’ll never use, so they just take up space in my “garage”. New jersey’s that will just take up space? A new helmet that serves no purpose? No thank you; I don’t need any more “stuff”. I would MUCH rather get new roads.
But I guess that’s the good thing about Zwift? They have different things for different people. Plenty of events for people who want the things, and levels to gain other things. And occasionally, they toss out some new miles for those of us who want that.
You’re saying you wouldn’t want a backside, having 2/3 real world routes to the summit, so you could make you’re ride a loop and see different stuff than an out and back all the time? While fun things like spinners are nice, I can only wear so many of the same pair of gloves.
I don’t think I’d ever pass up new paved routes being added to the existing realms.
Look at Alpe d’Huez, there are multiple ways to ride up there.
I’d have more HC climbs any day over another lot of tedious and boring rollers - yes I know they are loved by the people who carry momentum up them and punch over the top, but there are lots of them already.
Big climbs only really ADZ, Ventop and that’s it. Even “The grade” doesn’t look very big from what we’ve seen so far.
The grade will be short for fast climbers.
I hope they never add a “back side” to Ventoux. One is boring enough.
Hardly anyone rides it and nobody races it. (rare exceptions of course)
I really didn’t think the Big Spin would be very popular…but it was a huge success. (undeniable fact). I’m afraid I was one of the first ones to do the double and triple finish, which I got N.G. to try it, and then he told everyone. At least Zwift wasn’t mad about it. It just grew into a huge movement to rejoin for multiple spins. A lot of us were flat out racing to get back in the pen for a third finish. I didn’t do it for the prizes as much as I was just having a blast (doing something a bit naughty)
And, yes, I love my beret. Deal with it. Like totally pulling it off. lol.
Hardly anyone?
I see plenty of people on there when I’m riding it. It’s enjoyable because it’s a hard climb and you don’t get any rest.
I hope they put more of those in and I’d actually push for adding Col de Bonette and also do the entire climb from Le Grand Carrey past St Bon Tarantaise through to Courchevel and Col de La Loze. Up through all the levels of Courchevel and then with that leg-destroying La Loze cycle-path climb at the end.
Only in France would you ever find a cycle-path on top of a mountain with 16% and 18% gradients. Now might be the time to find a new cassette.
Enjoy the stage description from Fergus Grant and Jean-François Alcan (aka Jeff). I recorded them when I was there in 2019. They are both really cool.
Edit: Lol - “distressed roads” - always in France in the mountains.
I’ve been saying this to Zwift for 4 years
They could even adjust the elevation on the map and give a mid point climb, since it is a game anyway. Excuse the crude example, the thought process started with the image of 3D chess.
And I’ve been liking those posts for nearly as long as that.
A full Col de Sarenne climb done realistically - narrow broken up looking roads with realistic scenery would be lovely.
Maybe have a helicopter working at the bottom of the first downhill section going towards Huez (after the rest area at the top) like they did last year when I was there. (just after 9:10 in the video):
That downhill bit at 9 minutes onwards is now not very nice, there is a lot of loose stones and gravel. It’s a fast surface (unlike in Zwift) but it’s hazardous and slippery.
I took a look at the Strava segments just to get an idea of the usage…
Mount Ventoux KOM - 395,264 attempts by 122,399 people
Alpe du Zwift KOM - 3,630,420 attempts by 419,713 people
That’s still 100,000+ people, that’s not “hardly anyone”.
Of course some people hate big hills, but then others hate gravel in Zwift but they still have to live with gravel in Zwift - so some more big HC climbs others have to live with balances things out.