What is the worst Zwift World, and why is it New York?

As much as it pains me, as an American to loathe a U.S. City, this one can fall off the map and not be missed at all by me. I dread the days I see pink on the map because those are days I know I can’t alternate between Watopia.

Pros- The graphics
Its a form of getting off the couch and cycling

Cons- constant gear changes
constant circling
climbs that feel identical
that weird limb thats in the lane but doesnt turn you into a hood ornament

Feel free to disagree, but New York is inferior to all other maps.

I have to agree. On paper NY should be amazing, great scenery, and it has freakin sky roads! Yet every time it’s on the calendar I have to take a pass on it. It just feels cramped and small and uninteresting. Whereas I can do laps of Watopia flat forward which I’ve done thousands of times and not be bored.

I think the main issue with NY is that it should be part of something bigger, if I could ride out of the volcano, into NY then out the other side into the Jungle, then that would be a good ride.

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The routes of NY are senseless. Its like they had two or three and someone said make ten but use the same roads as the main two courses. There’s really just the High Road and the Perimeter. Putting Crit City as part of NY would have helped. Keep the High Road, get rid of the rest, lol. Richmond works because it is kept simple.

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All of the small worlds are totally overcrowded.
It would help to cancel “Watopia + Guest World” and introduce that you can everyday choose every world.
And of course they should make additions to NYC, Innsbruck and Richmond, like they did with Surrey Hills in London.

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I think that’s what gets to me about New York as well. There’s so many routes and all of them are virtually the same - maybe the KOM is earlier/later in the route, maybe you do the park circuit clockwise instead of anti-clockwise, but when I’m crossing off route badges, the NY ones are the ones I look forward to the least as there’s no variety.

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Agree. Not that interesting. Central park loop is all the same, then you have the sky roads. Not a lot of variety. Always seems crowded.

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yeah - I agree, New york is my most avoided world, I prefer ones that have a decent flat bit or a decent climb or both - new york seems to have lots of short gradient changes which means too much changing of gears for me.

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I would have to say that while NYC is certainly not my favorite, what annoys me FAR more than the things people have already mentioned above is that it makes up a full 1/3 of the ‘guest world’ days every month. I don’t like the London has another 1/3 of the days, either, but at least there is more variety in London. I’d like to see a few more Yorkshire/Innsbruck/Richmond days every month. Even though those worlds have limited roads, and can therefore often feel crowded, I just tire of London and NYC, which means I spend an inordinate amount of time in Watopia.

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The guest world is a small improvement, but I agree that unrestricted World choice is needed. I do not understand Zwift’s reluctance to allowing this.

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i think the idea was that originally the worlds would be a bit empty if you spread people across them all and the unpopular ones would always have very few people riding them,

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There are so many folks on now (at least during winter in the northern hemisphere) that this is no longer a valid reason. If I want to ride Innsbruck, I have to wait for one of the 4 days a month that it is offered

Totally agree, can’t stand NYC, don’t really like London much either, and can’t remember the last time I got to ride Innsbruck (I don’t pre-plan my rides, I just jump on when I get a chance).

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Agree. Like watopia because there are enough clear way points. Always know we’re I am. And how many miles to fishing village, say. In NY I never know we’re I am. Looks the same all the time.

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Even some “km to go” signs would be a help. I like the numbers on the Alp, counting down from 21 to 1 seems to break up the hour of climbing I’ve started.

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One awesome thing built in Watopia is the Volcano Circuit lap counter. I did the 25 lap badge and it was was a godsend. @Zee_Kryder I have to agree with you about the keeping it simple working on Richmond thou. I remember looking @ the badges and thinking “I can bang these all out in one evening” nope.jpg The route is misleading challenge, no crazy grades, no crazy lengths but still gets the intensity up. New York could have potential, but they’d have to add features exclusive to New York not found elsewhere, like dodging traffic or outrunning a stray dog or letting Zwift runners mimic a stroller mom that would make the game comical in lieu of a training method.

I really hate New York. I don’t like the stupid sky roads, I don’t like the fact that everything looks the same. I just don’t feel satisfied after climbing to the KOM arch. They should have kept New York real. Yes, it would be pretty flat, but imagine riding your bike over the Brooklyn bridge and have that amazing skyscraper view…

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You don’t like them? The only thing I find is being transparent, I had a hard time telling if the road was going up, flat or slightly downhill.


But, I have mine in bright orange.

I never training in NY, hate this world

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Count me as a hater as well. I never ride in NY unless forced to do so by a group ride. The sky hills seem like pointless routes just drawn arbritrarily. Biking gives not sense of going anywhere. There are not vistas of views. There is no feeling of progress biking around. Big thumbs down.

When I’m training, I use the iphone hack and ride an empty world. Change the date on your phone to the date when a world you like is on (you can use the calendar to see what’s on when), login into Zwift, then change date back to today (so Zwift/Strava etc logs ride as today) and away you go. Works a treat. All explained here, along with hacks for other OS/devices - https://zwiftinsider.com/ios-date-hack/