ERG-Watts are extremely volatile - I am lost!

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Hi all,

i have a Elite Suito-T since couple of weeks, and I really enjoy riding on swift couple of times a week.

Unfortunately, the ‘ERG-Mode’ for Workouts does really not work quite good, the displayed Watt-line looks horrible. The riding/feel itself is actually okay, to the extent I could judge this… (of course, I experienced already death-spiral etc.).

But my issue is clearly the extremley volatile Watt line / figures, as you can see below. My friend did the same workout with a wahoo kickr, and receives each time super flat Watt figures.

Meaning, if the workout asks me to push 300 Watts for 2 minutes; and I am keeping a stable cadance of 95 or 100; the Watts jump around +/- 80 at least, sometimes even more…

I did activate in Zwift the “3sec. average”, even though it does not feel like the activation/deactivation of this setting changes anything. To me it does not look like an average Watt, looking at the line below. I really cannot find a solution no where regarding this issue… Is the device/trainer just defect, or can anyone help me out with a magic trick how to fix this??
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Many thanks!

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The KICKR has ERG smoothing applied - His true profile will look a lot like yours, but the smoothing makes it look pretty with flat lines.

Link to help: ERG Mode Explained: The Myth of Smooth Power Lines - SMART Bike Trainers

though looking at your profile, that does look a little jumpy… Might be your cadence changes might be a few other things, hard to tell from a graph

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Have you looked in the Elite training app, to see if there is a power smoothing option for you? By default it’s 2 on my Direto, but 10 gives much smoother ERG workout graphs for intervals more than a few seconds.

The value is the number of pedal strokes used to smooth the raw power numbers.

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Thank you both very much!!

@Lee, could I provide any data or other screenshot, which might help you to draw other conclusions? - my cadance was in each Watt-phase as stable as possible for me :slight_smile: - for sure not perfect, but I guess not much worse compared to what my friends are capable of, and their Watt-Lines look super straight…

@Steve, I will try to find something like this. Is such setting part of the ‘elite app’?

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It’s in the Elite app configuration section, same page as calibration.

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I only have following options, maybe it does not exist for the elite suito

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That’s the correct page for where it shows in the app for my Direto, it’s the next option after circumference for me. I don’t know why the Suito T doesn’t have that option, sorry!

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I suggest speaking to Elite support about this.