Normally there is a link for that in the FAQ page for each challenge
Minor gripe on the workouts, specifically those that disable ERG for the [short] sprints, ie, the 15 second sprints.
There’s no time to prepare and be in the right gear; 15 seconds for an effort AND being forced to shift into a sprinting gear is simply not enough time.
This may not apply to many users, but myself on a Kickrbike it defaults to one of your lowest gears, and if you shift while in ERG you’ll essentially get the erg spiral of death.
So only recommendation on those sprint free ride segments is 15 seconds gap to allow the user to prepare (their gearing) for the sprint, and then another arch for “go go go.”
One other thing that may be of benefit is to inform users that their comparison data comes in the form of emails; I see Amanda posted this in OP, however, might be important somewhere within the app this is the case as well. (Perhaps best kept out of the workouts, as when they are no longer relevant time wise and the emails stop functioning it would be a weird thing to state in said workout)
It would be better if they told you to drop it out of Erg mode after the warmup and leave it off for the rest of the workout. That’s what I did.
I use Xert for years and they have workouts that do the same - a short and sharp intervals are run in a slope mode (free ride in Zwift). For me it works the best to ride those intervals at 2-8 gear. I also use Kickr Bike and I go to a 2-7 before the interval starts, do not do it click-click-click, give it a small pause between shifts for Erg mode to reestablish. Then being at 2-7 before the interval I shift up to 2-8 right at the moment the interval starts. That makes it switch as fast as it can be with no delays and I can sprint for whole 15 sec all out (or less if I’m cooked ).
I turned off ERG mode 30 seconds before each sprint segment so i could get into the gear i wanted, then turned it back on for the recovery segments. Made a big difference.
Quick question about the first workout - I did it this morning and it felt easier than what I thought it might. Is the max wattage for the last sprint a flat 620 for everyone regardless, or it is based off of your FTP? Just curious. Was debating trying it again at some point with a 10-20% wattage bump.
Sprint ability isn’t particularly tied to FTP, so it"s not sensible (as here) to have the target watts tied to FTP.
I did the longer workout, and just for lols - and also to make it easier - did the first half in Erg. Then I did the second half properly in Resistance Mode.
You’ll have to f&%k around and find out to find a combination of gearing and power to enable you to do 5 sprints at something close to max with 3 minute recoveries. I did them on my Wattbike Atom in Gears 11 thru 15 respectively, and that worked OK.
That makes sense. Was just curious since every other workout I’ve done with Zwift (admittedly few) was FTP based. Didn’t think to disengage ERG mode for the actual sprint segments, might have to do that if I do the workout again. That, and for the sprint test as well. Thinking I’ll have to disengage somewhat early before the effort arches. I’m using a Click for virtual shifting with a Kickr Core, and where it (stupidly) defaults to Gear 8 out of the gate and I typically sprint in Gears 16-18 on flats, I need to give the trainer time to build the resistance.
Yeah. For the test I knocked it out of Erg as soon as the warmup was finished and settled into a gear that gave me more or less the required recovery watts at a comfortable 85rpm.
From there it was just a matter of lifting cadence a bit and changing gear in the 10 seconds before each interval and then just hitting it hard at the arch.
Finished up the Baseline on Friday night; only additional final comment I have:
The emails were nice, the only thing I wish it would add would be the comparison powers; as to when I did them (so I knew what to reference).
Not knowing how far back it was looking, I have no frame of reference as to my comparison numbers. (I’m assuming when I hit those numbers was during FRR, a few weeks ago; however, the addition in the email would’ve been helpful!)
Beyond that; emails good, some of the workouts (I only did the short ones before and after races / rides) were for sure tough. One (the free ride sprint one if I recall), had waaaaaay too much Z1 in it (3 sprints across 30 minutes and 28 minutes of that being Z1 and bottom Z2?, was a bit weird).
Unlocks are cool. Wish the wheels were a bit better, but, appreciate the efforts from the art team to get something unique after so much stagnant time the past few years on new bikes and wheels.
Not if people just go easy in these events.
I had ignored these events, might just do two of them to get my IRL glasses.
Anything with sprint efforts is no point for me otherwise because of one leg being so much weaker.
bikes.
#FixTheSteeringZwift
Nope. That’s exactly what a maximal sprint test session should look like.
One of the pro riders said “sprint training is lazy training”
He could say that because he happened to be good at sprinting and was paid to ride bikes.
#FixTheSteeringZwift
I have completed 3 stages of Baseline so far but have only been credited with completing 2 stages, why is this happening, its quite clear that I have competed the 3rd stage Attack the Bunch so why has it not been counted?
Just completed the 4th stage, Attack test…I have now received credit for completing stage 3 but there’s no tick on Stage 4…yet I have been awarded the Oakley Kate Sunglasses…very weird…
I found it kind of silly easy too - I was backing off to get back down to the target power.
I found it easier to keep from going way over power by leaving it in ERG mode and just spinning up to 120-145ish RPM until I went over power and then slowing down a little.
Yeah, if you’re “sprinty” and do the whole workout in Erg then it’s kinda a waste of time.
Conversely, if you’re sprinty and doing them in Resistance Mode, then you probably need to do them submaximally, as your shovel will be big enough that 3 minutes of recovery won’t be enough to climb out of the hole you dug to go again and again …
Well, after doing the Attacking workout this morning, any other preconceptions I might have had about things being too easy with future workouts in the program went right out the window. That one got the legs burning for sure. Not looking forward to the endurance one. Haha
Make sure you have a good number for your FTP. If you suspect your number is in any way optimistic, drop it by 10 watts before you start.
But you can just set the difficulty in the work out to 80%. That way you dont have to change your ftp.