And flying cars
I love New York. I think it was the first world to have very confusing routes, all nearly impossible to navigate. Then the same thing happened with Neokyo. They created more routes by drawing squiggly lines on a map.Watopia is also a picture of lazy route inventions. I do love many of them. But we don’t simply want old roads to be reused to create ‘new’ routes.
I think the biggest complaint about the New York world was the gentle rollercoaster routes, that couldn’t be easily identified by the scenery.
How about a tribute virtual Twin Towers, that has a climb of ~1000 feet going between them towards the top (the real buildings were ~1300 feet tall)? This will take elite racers more than 5mins to climb (helpful for current ZRS 5mins seed score) and give Zwift its first Strava cat3 climb.
Well, yes, but if it is used to move you between the two parks at their proper locations, that’s at least 12–13 km of tunnel each way (and too many rats to count).
but that isn’t how it is used in london
The only reason people hate NY is because they forget Yorkshire exists. 
Bologna mainly as it’s small and rather limited unless you fancy an ftp test its good for that.
yeah new york is not great for free riding but works pretty well for racing.
My only gripe about Yorkshire is the long straight “Roman” road layout, more meandering would make the world of difference to me.
A proper hill of 250-750 feet would help, ideally towards the upper end of that range.
Did anyone change their opinion on NYC, now that there are more routes, even flat ones?
No, it’s still not my preferred world. I just got the route badges and then won’t ride it again, same for Makuri world. It doesn’t really have the kinds of routes I prefer.
Any proper hill would also need to have an escalator function put on it, as probably all hills do low since NY introduced that. 
Today I did “Double Parked”, yesterday I did “Watts the Limit”, and both were fun routes if you ignore the escalator section. For me the escalator sections will be the reason I will not select them for future rides. I’m trying to keep a relatively consistent cadence, and I find I’m never sure how to take the escalators, but whenever I do I find I always have to re-spin my flywheel at the top, so it breaks me from the groove I’m trying to maintain in a route. I would prefer if they had just made those a longer ramp at 8% or so rather than 19% with an escalator with whatever physics they have created for the escalator.
I’ve pretty much just decided to not pedal at all when I hit the escalators. Drink break
Yeah, but I specifically want to keep a consistent cadence and rhythm to my rides, so when I ride I don’t particularly want to stop pedaling until I’m done for the day. So, I guess the escalators are just not for me.
Trainer Difficulty set at zero then?
Do a workout. The escalators don’t seem to have the ‘misalignment’ issue in a workout, so it doesn’t cause any cadence ‘hiccups’.
I have mine at 50% and for most routes that works great for me, it’s nice to have some minor variation, but the NY escalators are not that for me. I also very often do ERG workouts, in which case it really doesn’t matter which routes you do from a resistance perspective, but if I’m in free-ride mode I will not be choosing escalator routes.
I have Trainer Difficulty at 100%, but my gearing on kickr bike is relatively well suited to steep climbs (as on my real bikes).
The feel of the gradients isn’t too much of a drama, I do deal with 18-19% gradients at one point on my normal real life rides where I don’t have these escalators or erg modes to assist. Just got to grind up those and deal with it.
The escalators don’t really bother me one way or the other, but without them it might spice up riding more.
Worse. Ugh, just rode it today. I’m an NYC native, grew up riding the city, still do. I loved CP because it accurately recreated the geography, has enough real world landmarks, and generally tastefully embellished with the future silliness. When I ride it, I think of IRL. When I ride the park, I think of Zwift. But this expansion? Complete garbage. It’s literally just a rando urban techno cyber punk low effort generation. No connection to IRL geography AT ALL. Why did they even bother? Just put the resources into more fantastical worlds. NYC is iconic and unique, they had a real opportunity to make something special here. And they totally crapped the bed. Need to get word to Zephyr to detach himself from any of this.
I like it a lot. Great team effort for design. The main flaw, I feel, is way too many routes and badges and jerseys. It’s basically an out and back route with a couple of tiny laps thrown in. I hope they add the Catskills and some climbs.