Hi everybody, I got an Elite Avanti and after fixing the initial Bluetooth issues by replacing the electronic board I am struggling with the virtual shifting behavior.
Basically I have the same resistance in Gears 1-13 in gear 14-16 I have a suitable behavior and then I got 100watts more in between gear 16 and 17.
Going downhill at Alpe du zwift when I want to spin up the legs easily in gear one I still have to push 150 watts with 90rpm.
I did some testing in Tempus Fugit a 0% and 85rpm with quarq SRAM red power meter. This is the outcome:
So my question is do others have a similar behavior? Is the avanti not really compatible with virtual shifting and you need an FTP of 300 to go for easy rides at high rpm? Basically spinning at 100 rpm you are at 170 watts in gear one. Elite support somehow tells me this is normal Behavior as my cadence is to low?!
Maybe they got me wrong but that’s weird . Also my experience with the Kickrcore was completely different but maybe it’s due to the low flywheel weight of the Avanti. How is the experience with an Elite Rivo if somebody is using it out there with virtual shifting? Thanks for your help.
Ok I just found those two topics which seem to adresse the issue with Elite Trainers. So I guess I could check if by setting up a 54 chainring instead of the 50 and a lower cog size it might work better. With 1by in the front the virtual shifting on Wahoo Kickr Core was always a great solution to go on hilly segments, but from all the user experience mentioned it seems that Virtual Shifting just sucks on Elite trainers and I should set up a 2by for Zwift. Anyway lesson learned, do not get an Elite trainer for Virtual Shifting.
Topic 658426 & Topic 653170/6 (sorry I am not allowed to post links)
Actually, Virtual Shifting on my Elite Direto XR works perfectly and is a total blast! It’s smooth, responsive, and thousands of us are using this exact setup without any issues.
If the gears feel “limited,” that sounds like a technical glitch rather than a hardware flaw, because the virtual range is actually huge. I’m super happy with my Elite trainer—it’s been absolutely perfect for me! Only the Elite Support will be able to help you figure out what went wrong with your specific setup.
Thanks Paul and John. I’ll try the bigger sprocket tomorrow.
With a normal cassette no issues at all with the trainer and there you can also spin all you want, but yeah would love to have a similar experience like with the Wahoo Kickr when using virtual shifting.
Great thanks I have 50x18 with the cog but with the cassette I could do 50x28. But what I do not get is that Elite says it needs a high flywheel speed to work properly so like 50x12 should work better from that perspective, but then you hardly can start pedaling and the resistance is acting even worse when shifting.
And yeah it is sad that gear 1-12 are the same. I do not know how Wahoo managed to make that work nicely
It’s not that bad really. I’ve used gears 1-12 on uphill gradients of various strengths. So they do have a use. On the flats, I’m covered by gears 14-19 for most typical Zone2 thru 4 efforts, Past 19 might have usage on strong downhill gradients.
Hey, yes I am using a Justo trainer but with the Zwift bike. Never tried with one of my road bikes.
Can reach reach 100 watts and lower with 100 rpm but had to make my own “COG” as the Elite one with 18t was too hard. With a a real bike, all depends on your chainring, cassette set-up.