Sticky Thank You!!!
Undoubtedly the main responsible for the evolution of Zwift Racing
Thank you, Sticky!
Thanks Sticky!
and where do we go from here? is RGT really a decent alternative for training and occasional racing?
Donât give up on Zwift just yet Kamil!
Thankyou for all the help and advice you have given all of usâŚ
Honestly⌠Iâm fed up with the way zwift treats us.
The decisions are made behind closed door and with no notice whatsoever.
They are taking ZP down step by step and it was the only thing that kept me personally with zwift.
Outside of this I see no point in subscribing.
yeah - see you point.
The KISS 100 B race though ⌠you wonât be able to live without
Thatâs true, the KISS 100 races are the best events on the whole platformâŚ
but hopefully as weather improves and the covid situation gets under control because of the vaccine programmes, there will be more riding/racing outside soonâŚ
Sticky appreciation.
I hope that Zwift is going to take community racing seriously and not ignore it in favour of ZRL / Tour de Zwift / ZHQ races exclusively. Iâm worried about where itâs going with Sticky shown the door.
I guess this very much depends on what you want to use Zwift for, and whether there are any credible alternatives. If the latter donât exist, cutting off your nose to spite your face doesnât seem the best thing to do.
I doubt Zwift want to take down ZwiftPower. After all, if that was the goal they could just have turn off its access at the flick of a bit.
And given Zwiftâs partnership with the UCI and ambitions to have their platform underpin eRacing at the Olympics, if they just pulled ZP theyâd be pulling the rug out from under their own feet, surely.
Thanks ZP Sticky from all at Team IRL Cycling
I think the issue is other than zrl they are 100% focused on the pro end of racing and seem unwilling to make improvements to benefit the community.
Very frustrating that 3 years later we are still talking of the same issues that could be easily improved on and this step of removing race comments and the great work sticky does is another step in the wrong direction. Sticky was very active and helpful on the zp forums and we can see zwift already wonât be providing the same level of service.
They are trying to bring to these forums the Race Comments: Post-Race Discussion Template & Guidelines. I agree that is important to make constructive criticism, but i think Zwift Racing community is quite mature. The people behind the flame wars are the ones who abused the system.
We need to do our best to be constructive, reading the Zwift forum moderators, i feel them by our side.
True enough, and I agree this probably could have been fixed much sooner.
But pragmatically I would think Zwift have been focused on growth more than anything else. Possibly to the detriment of consolidation even. And the facts of the matter (as presented by Eric Min or Jon Mayfield as I recall) are that racers are a small proportion of the Zwift user base. As a company it would make sense to concentrate efforts on the larger group.
I do still think they will sort racing out. Weâre in a better position than 5 years ago when racers were very ad hoc affairs. âMeet at the Watopia start line for 7pm, then wait for someone to say go!â âNeutralâ roll outs, âstart racing at the sprint lineâ and all. ZwiftPower came about largely as part of us trying to address problems with working out who finished first etc. and while theyâve done nothing much regarding categorisation, Zwift have implemented a lot that makes racing better.
ZwiftPower was only ever supposed to be a workaround because Zwift werenât doing it themselves. If theyâre going to do it themselves, great. From what theyâve said they do have people directly working on supporting racing. Flintâs been very visibly engaging on this forum for example. I can understand it if they donât want all the dirty washing done in public; and of course thereâs always Facebookâs âZwift Racersâ group for venting (although IIRC they donât allow accusations of cheating either).
I think the perceived way that Zwift took over ZwiftPower in a seemingly hostile manner left a bitter taste. (It might not have been like that at all, but thatâs the perception I have from what went on and the things people said - or didnât say.) But I also take this as meaning they have their eyes on racing, want more direct control over it; and Iâd give them the benefit of the doubt. At least for the next 6 months say. If nothing has significantly improved by then, maybe people are right that rank and file community racing on Zwift is a dodo.
Thank you Sticky. You were always quick, responsive, concise, and accurate with the way you helped people. Watching you in action over the years was truly admirable.
Thanks Sticky for everything you have done for the community, legend.
If this is true, why are so many of their updates focused on things like steering and boost mode? The proportion of users who those items have to be minuscule.
Are they though? The pace of change in those areas seems quite slow to me.
Steering at least isnât racing-specific. Indeed a lot of races and events have it turned off. Boost mode isnât mainstream is it yet? It was introduced 6 months or more ago wasnât it? Iâve seen some changes, but I donât do a lot of races so maybe thereâs a lot of changes I havenât seen.
Besides, something not being the sole or primary focus doesnât mean it would get no attention.
Iâm just referring to the number of times those come up in the monthly updates. The attention those get seems disproportionate to the number of users who take advantage of those features.
Letâs keep the FUN in dysfunctional, okay?