I just learned that the results (leaderboard) for women’s sprint and QOM times and rankings only gets displayed to women riders. In group rides, this means that the leader (if male) has to ask via chat who is leading on the women’s side. This is awkward. And to be honest, it feels generally lame that women’s results aren’t posted to all just as a matter of course and parity.
Currently gender-specific leaderboards are only visible to riders of that gender. So, for example, during a mixed group ride that includes a friendly competition at sprint segments, male riders can’t see the female leaderboards and female riders can’t see the male leaderboards. The overall leader board is visible to everyone but it’s hard to figure out gender based on user names.
This makes it hard for ride leaders who wants to give a call out to the “winner” from each gender.
Usually (although arguably not always) the male riders beat the female riders. Having gender-specific leaderboards visible to all participants would be a small step forward towards equalizing the playing field.
I suggested something similar to this over a year ago in this forum and unfortunately it never gained any traction.
Perhaps we gain merge these requests? In any case hope this is something that happens in the near future.
Has been raised a few times. As a ride leader who often encourages all riders to go full gas on the final sprint and/or climb, i would like to congratulate both KOM and QOM equally. That’s not always possible at the moment, esp with the jersey icon not reliably being shown at present.
Has been raised in the Event Leaders section of the forum too.
We know there are currently issues with the leaderboard and jersey awards. Would be nice if there were the option to show KOM/QOM/Merged added as part of the fix.
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Also bumping this up. As a ride leader on the CyclingTips ride this feature would make our efforts to promote excellence in Womens riding a lot easier and work towards a goal of making our rides inclusive and diverse for everyone.
As the presenting sponsor of the first ever Tour de France Femmes, I truly hope that Zwift will show its committment to parity in sports and the promotion of women’s cycling achievements within its own domain.
It’s a prudent point, no doubt. Thanks for raising it! I’ll do my utmost to make sure this get acknowledged with the right folks.
@xflintx
I appreciated your bringing this to right folks’ attention. Can you provide an update on where things stand with this? It’s been a while since this was raised. Thanks.
I don’t imagine that this is what the Zwift staff actually believe, so I’ll just talk about appearances. Men not being able to see the women’s leaderboard has the appearance of suggesting that women’s riding and racing is not important to men.
(I would also recommend, practically speaking–speed up the rotation of leaderboards. Men’s, women’s, and rider PR. There are plenty of times when I find myself approaching a sprint segment at speed, and the overall leaderboard doesn’t even appear before I’m off to the races. So when all the leaderboards become visible to everyone, make them cycle faster too )
I think having a user configurable option is the right outcome (see all, see my own top10, see boys, see girls) and maybe an onscreen option similar to how we can scroll through the sprints today, but scroll through those options.
One of the weekly group rides I did for a while when daylight savings lined up had 2 super strong woman sprinters that were my weekly competition. We didn’t really care about overall placings, just whether we kicked the others butt. These group rides were super-social so loads of banter and crap talk for the sprints - it kind of gets lost when everyone has to ask “what time did you do”.