Hello everyone.
My setup: Schwinn MPower Echelon2, sending power data via ANT+ to the Zwift app running on Android (Samsung Note 9… and same behaviour on Note 10 too)
My problem: Power data is getting to Zwift just fine, but cadence is being estimated by Zwift or somehow not going through. Even on the pairing screen, the Power meter is showing correctly, but cadence is always showing zero. Then in game, again, power is fine, but cadence is always wrong.
My request: please help me get the correct cadence data.
Extra note: I also bought a CABLE dongle so I coild get the ANT+ data from Echelon2 into my Garmin Fenix 5x. I thought I’d try connect from CABLE via BLE to Zwift, and this works perfectly, both Power and Cadence going through properly. I’d use this setup, except that CABLE only allows one BLE connection at a time, and so I could not then connect it to my 5x which is what I bought it for.
Thank you.
Hi @Tony_Stern_TBR
Welcome to the forum.
Do you pair the trainer in the pairing screen.
Do you know it the trainer broadcast cadence?
Hi Gerrie, thank you.
- I pair the power meter on the splash screen that appears after touching on my name on Zwift on Android
- my meter appears as an option under cadence (but always registers 0 here)
- it must be sending cadence data, because the CABLE dongle can pick it up on ANT+ and then rebroadcast it correctly via BLE.
The CABLE app also has a useful screen to inspect the incoming ANT+ data and the cadence is clearly visible there as well, and it is correct.
See if you see different ant+ options for power and cadense. Pick the fe-c option if available.
Hi again. It is picking up the FE-C profile and I’m selecting it. I’ve attached some photos, you can see in all cases it includes “FEC“ or FE-C” in the name of the transmitting device, and I select these.
Also:
- thisisant says the device supports 4 profiles including FE-C (thisisant com directory mpower-echelon2-cosole)
- The manual says that the device uses the “ANT+ Fitness Profile”
- Interestingly on wakeup the name is transmitted as “FEC 43654” but after a minute or so the name changes to “STAR TRAC FE-C 43654”
Thanks for your interest and help.
Adding an additional diagnostic point. Running the ANT+ plugin sampler app, I can see the Echelon2 details, it is coming up as Fitness Equipment, and when I look in the Bike data category I can see both Power and Cadence data coming correctly.
So now I’m pretty sure the hardware and ANT+ protocols are working properly from the device to my phone. I’m wondering somehow whether Zwift app to ANT+ may somehow not be working right in my setup.
Tagging @will_botti if you don’t mind also taking a quick look at this when time allows.
Thanks everyone.
Hi all, just gently testing to see if there are further help or ideas.
I can literally see the cadence data getting onto my Android via ANT+ but for some reason Zwift can not read the data although it sees the sensor. On the other hand, the same data, going via the CABLE dongle after being converted to BLE works just fine in Zwift!
In sum:
- NOT WORKING: Echelon2 >> ANT+ >> Zwift: Power is OK, Cadence sees the device but shows 0
- WORKING: Echelon2 >> ANT+ >> CABLE dongle >> BLE >> Zwift: Power is OK, and Cadence is OK!!
Just needing to get (1) to work… 
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How you solve the problem?
(Please see “HOWEVER” paragraph first :))
Hi there, I overcame the problem by buying a 2nd CABLE device. Something seems to me to be wrong, old, damaged or inferior about the Echelon implementation of ANT+, I could never get it to talk directly to any of my current range garmin devices, though my Epix 2 does seem to notice it.
However the CABLE device is able to pick up the Echelon ANT+ signal just fine, and then convert it to BLE.
So now I have 2 CABLE devices running, both pick up the ANT+ signal from the bike, and then one connects to Zwift on my Apple TV and the other connects to my watch.
HOWEVER … in the end I don’t actually use it like this anymore it is too complicated. I just use the data that comes from Zwift to Garmin, and lately the effort data itself is calculated properly which is good enough for me.
OK. thanks. What is the dongle equipment you use?
I’m trying to connect Echelon2 to Android to use Zwift, but it doesn’t detect cadence either.
I’m thinking connecting to the PC, but do I need an Ant+ Dongle and then another one to transfer the data to bluetooth? Or do you think that the data in Ant+ is enough for the PC to be able to capture the cadence through the Dongle?
Thanks.
Hi there. It is a device made by North Pole Engineering called CABLE.
The CABLE accepts the ANT+ connection from Echelon 2 and converts it to Bluetooth. Zwift then connects to the Bluetooth protocol in the device. I use the PWR protocol that sends both Power data and Cadence data to zwift. You need an Apple IOS device to configure the CABLE.
There are my experiences after many hours of messing around, the device worked perfectly, but I suppose every setup is different.
It seems to me that Echelon2 “should” talk direct to zwift or Garmin but I could never get it to work despite trying many options.
