But it’s not just that. it’s also where your race/riding profile resides, with ability to see how that race profile (Cat) was established.
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No you don’t need that. You just enter the race you have access to. As CE grows so will the different ways of splitting groups change.
CP/MAP data, as calculated by Zwift, should be attached to your profile. It should be visible whenever you look at your profile, whether that be in the game, in the companion app, or in ZP.
Any other game with any other sort of level/rank system will clearly display this everywhere, it’s just a variable after all.
That variable and its contents already exist, so not sure why it is taking so long to expose it everywhere. You are right, ZP is surely the easiest place to display it as it is a website, but it should be just as easy to have it on your Zwift profile page (and that would be applicable to all riders, whether on ZP or not).
Sounds easy, but then events still don’t tell you what route they are on…
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It’s not strictly about “need”. For ZP cats, forgetting CP/MAP for the moment… you don’t “need” any race results, or powercurve data, or technically anything other than an A, B, C, or D next to your name. All that’s being asked is the same relay of data for calculating CE and the CP/MAP info assigned to oneself.
This sound like the way to do it, if we are set on CP and MAP then it should be available like FTP, maybe even easier to find.
But CE should not be linked to ABCDE because we know that some of the plans include the option to have different CP/MAP levels for each event.
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Totally agree! I currently have NO CLUE why I’m up to mixed A! Great idea Chris!!!
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ZP and zwift should be completely integrated and linked for every activity. They should both be reflecting the same data but with different levels of granularity. You have the basic data through zwift as it is currently and a per race link (maybe?) to ZP which would have the more detailed info displayed. Obviously there would have to be the opt in option still. This would be an easy way to direct people to ZP with just a click of a button in the post race results.
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It’s been mentioned already, but given longer term plans, it might make more sense to simply show the current 60-day rolling raw Critical Power and MAP numbers. Not mentioning weight or a starting pen.
I think the point was answered way way back in the 2nd or 3rd reply.
The new Category enforcement is NOT a static value . It will vary based on Event.
This is probably very misunderstood and suspect if that was clearer many who “support” it would be less supportive .
I think its great to enforce entry levels but not to make it some hidden calculation thing. But … we have been here before so many times.
If whatever metrics we use (be that my performances or my results) calculate me as Cat N I expect to be in Cat N for every race that uses the defined metric that’s just how it should work . I don’t want to be (potentially since I personally anyway never have ) moved about based on more than my own metrics but based on other condition , the spread of riders or some whim of the day in the calculation . By all means have multiple categorisations , yes , and even decentralised categorisation ( yes please!) but not this virtual calculate on the day thing ( my opinion of course) .
So in short whilst I voted for it , its a meaningless vote because as it stands its not something assigned to you . There are other variable at play , which is why IMO it is less that satisfactory. My Vote was really to highlight that when it is popular , it might tease out that it will have to be denied because its not how it works in this approach.
As for the Zwiftpower requirement , you dont have to do non consensual signing up of users in ZP. I don’t see why you cant have option to support racing event and series that enforce you having a zwiftpower enabled profile . Default events you can sign up and do what you want as usual , if you are optionally denied entry to a specific race because you don’t have a ZP profile but you want to be in it then you have a choice , sign up and consent … or don’t . Seems pretty standard sort of thing to me.
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Certainly hadn’t appreciated that fact.
If it’s a categorization metric based on performance figures, surely your category should be the same for every event you enter (just like the current ZP “classic” categories).
Unless we’re talking about split-cat events, or some such? Dunno, the more I read, the more confused I become (doesn’t take much 
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I haven’t experience it myself ( always in the same Cat as my Zwiftpower default one ),
It also may not be fully developed to do this even but the Category you are assigned is per race and that is ( or could be !) by the conditions set on the race itself.
Perhaps some clarification maybe if we actually got that as it was certainly one of the features that was being trumpeted as a plus . @gloscherrybomb who was closer I think to the insider information here might be able to shed more light if he is still posting here ?
Incorrect. It is a static value.
Thank you for that information. So then the very popular vote stands , when do we get it published on Zwiftpower 
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The last update from @James_Zwift said customisable thresholds was on the roadmap.
Edit: it was Flint. Covered in one of the many duplicate threads.
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How much information in zwift power is actually dynamic?
Most of the profile information is pulled from a fit file which needs to be processed and then zwiftpower reads this?
The personal information is all added via user selection.
To have CE added to zwiftpower it needs to be pushed from whatever zwift use to hold the data and then process it - granted it’s just a push to a cell that needs to be overwritten each day - but is there anything in zwiftpower that does that currently?
that would be nice but realistically its going to take zwift approximately 15 years to complete the roadmap so they should put some scaffolding up in the meantime
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Some kind of additional transparency around CE is necessary to avoid the confusion we’re seeing. That confusion translates into real customer disappointment. I don’t care how it happens, but it does need to happen somehow.
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In game has to be the number 1 priority.
The assumption that ‘everyone’ uses Zwift Power is wildly incorrect.
Zwift Power is a relic.
It will eventually have to be rolled into the game anyway.
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How do I downvote this?
Most of the fun of Zwift is not having a clue what’s going on.
Want to see what events are coming up? Well, screw you, deal with our terrible events page.
Want to know which events have Category Enforcement? No you don’t. You have to guess, or hope it has CE in the title or go to a third party website and search for the right term.
New update? Well, let’s see what previously working function is now broken.
Want to know which is the fastest bike? You see those stars? They mean nothing. Go to another website (Zwift Insider) and then wonder if the newest and greatest bike will be nerfed in the next update.
I could go on but you get the idea.
I don’t understand why so many people have this need to bring order to the chaos. Isn’t chaos what Zwift is all about? Embrace the chaos, it is the true path to happiness.
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