Pace Partners FAQ [August 2020]

I see them now…

poor coco, eternally lapping on tempus fugit. give her better scenery!

I wouldn’t mind see her and Bowie swap… would like to do some Tempus at 3.2-4 :slight_smile:

Please alternate their routes! I’m not strong enough to follow the A and B bots, I’m tired of Tempus Fugit, however now that all 4 seem to be riding at the same time more often I should finally be able to give Dan a try.

Was just riding with Bowie. First lap went fine w/kg seemed to be within the expected range. The second lap however… Bowie drilled it the entire lap doing 5.2 w/kg and blew the entire group apart. Not sure if this is expected behavior or a bug.

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I’d more just want the A bot NOT riding through the dirt/jungle. I hate that route with the dirt. Put it on Magnificent 8 or some other longer-ish route with moderate/light climbing.

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Hi @Jim_Hollow welcome to Zwift forums.

It’s not August 29, right? Turns out Bowie was feeling frisky and flexed on y’alls for that one ride. Sorry about that - I checked with his human - shouldn’t happen again.

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Are Zwift people running these manually? :joy:

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It says diesel dan 1-2.4w/kg … today i rode 45min with him and dan held 1.5w/kg all the time…uphill or down …same… is this normal?

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Yes, this is the normal way they work. We never know exactly how fast they are going until you join them, unfortunately, it would be nice to see their current w/kg on the join screen. They don’t increase for hills, just a steady pace the entire time.

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yeah, but it just doesnt feel natural…it would be nice if he rides more dynamic…1-1.5w on downhill and 2-2.4w uphill etc…

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And Coco Cadence rides at 2.6, that’s too big of a gap between pace partners. 1.5 - 2.6, really this is the best zwift can do …

There is too big of a pace difference between pace partners … DD rides at 1.5 and CC rides at 2.6 REALLY this is best you can do Zwift, SAD!!

Yup because I’m sure this is just really simple to build. These are a futureworks release which means it’s very much a Beta version. But zwift will let the community use the feature at this stage.

Rode with the C bot today over 2h 30 mins and little thing I noticed:

The group around the bot is so big that I have a tough time staying close enough. Despite paying a lot attention it happened me a few times that I was too far away (as of the big group+draft) that I couldn’t get back in time.

It felt like if you are 10 seconds more than 10 metres away, the drop multiplier immediately resets.

Suggestion: Increase the distance to 20 metres and/or allow up to 20 seconds instead of 10 to get close again.

Thx.

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I think it would be helpful for the pace bot to have a gold arrow overhead like a group ride leader. Coco can be sometimes plain hard to pick out from the bunch.

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Yes +1 !

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That would help indeed.

Plus, if you are too far away from the bot you get a message to return/get closer. No matter if you are x metres in front or behind, the graphic always shows you behind the bot. Would make sense to show either in front or behind, because sometimes I wasn’t even sure if I am ahead (slow down) or behind (speed up).

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Yes +1 also !

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I think it’s even more harsh than that. Either that or there are some bugs in the multiplier code.

I did a ride with Diesel Dan yesterday, and I was paying close attention to my distance. I never got more than 5m away (according to my UI). As I watched the multiplier go up from 1.8 to 2.0 it actually reset back to 1.0. I was only 3m in front of Dan at the time.