New settings for Elite Novo Force

I received a suggestion to set 9 blinks (Misuro) and 3 resistance on trainer. It seemed to me that it got better now

Concerning correct settings for Elite Novo Force 8. Looks like Level 3 gives correct power
To verify I’m using wahoo speed and cadence sensor and the Elite myETraining app. Using a specific gear (5) and a constant cadence (60) gives me 66 watts.
I then recreate the setup with Zwift (gear 5 and a cadence of 60), and I get the same power reading
In both cases I had the trainer set to 3 and configured the tire size to the same (700*25)
I also verified the same using the power characteristic for the trainer using the speed from the wahoo sensor.
I guess others can verify the same, but as far as I can see, the power calculations done in Zwift for Elite Novo Force 8 is correct if the power level is set to 3

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Remember Elite recommend 1 blink for Elite Novo Force 8. It should be possible to redo the same test as I did below using the Misuro sensor if the Cadence is calculated correctly by the sensor

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Sometime ago I started using the trainer at 4/8, but twice this week already I was at a race and got a message that I was too strong and the trainer was not set up properly.

When I started using 4/8 it lowered my FTP by almost 100 watts already compared to 3/8.

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Thanks, I will do the test with 1 blink.

the avatar does not move when I set 1 blinks

:pensive:

I was using a power meter with the novo force which I thought was good until I went and got a kicker core. Now my powers higher!!! Settings and everything must be wrong for novo force. I used to ride on 5. But found tyre wear was awful

Nice work!

Hello all,

I did some measurement, where i use classical cyclocomputer to measure speed and for Zwift i have bluetooth sensor for cadence and speed. I have Elite Novo Force - Elastogel with 8 settings. On Zwift I choosed this type of trainer and set it on 3/8 level. As you can saw on the graph of producer for 17 km/h the power shoud be about 100 watts. For 32 km/h it“s about 200 watts and for 45 km/h = 300 watts. So I tested it and there is my ressults:
17 km/h…(100 watts say producer) on zwift 91 watts
32 km/h…(200 watts say producer) on zwift 202 watts
45 km/h…(300 watts say producer) on zwift 318 watts

The results seems to be ok but It“s a shame that you can“t change setting of your cyclotrainer and you have to use heavy gears. It will be very helfull to add one more settings.

Best regards
Martin M.

So, I’m have the Novo force 8 (with 8 levels…) and bought a Misuro sensor… after a few days of use in past 2018 I have two conclusions: Level 3 isn’t correct… too easy, and very distant from my real wattage…
And Misuro used in 1 blink set is kind of a mess…
I do my comparissons, with the real world and other trainers (more simple and more complex) from my friends.
In both situations I used my Garmin edge with speed, cadence, and HR monitor… simulate a lot of conditions, plan roads and elevation… so more than 5000 km (Zwift and Roads)
My conclusion after 2 years: Set 7 blinks in Misuro, the power meter will use the same driver diameter, and just adjust your Novo force set up in 4,5 :slight_smile: yeah… I’m kidding, of course, however, five is too strong especially in lower wattage (2 to 3 w/kg ) so, if you ride at this range almost the time the better level is 4… perhaps if you are stronger and easily reach levels near 4 or 5 w/kg use level 5…
It’s important here: Novo Force is a simple classic roller and at this moment one of the most popular in the world because is not expansive and very reliable, easy to set and compatible with a lot of bikes…

to make this comparison: Tac X direct (Smart ) and a Cycleops Fluid… and a basic Bkool magnetic

The Tacx I’ve tried in a bike store in exposition so I could make only 30 minutes, but select Richmond UCI 16km course… fixed my attention in the power meter graphic… the conclusion it’s simple in 80% of my ride I fell the same effort, same pushing… only in the uphill that I felt like an underwattage… so I’m not too strong that an I think to do… kkk
On Cycleops fluid, in my friend’s house I could use my bike, and try a lot of configurations… conclusion: no difference… only the silence… and on the initial drive I felt easier but this is because of fluid is cold… and in a sprint moment my feeling is not so real… really hard to reach 6~7 w/kg…

Thanks for the great advice. The Elite cycle seems great but they’re weak on software and support.

Hey guys! I did a test with Misuro and it seems to me to be the ideal configuration for the Novo Force! I tested using the Garmin 520 + vector 3S, My e-training with Misuro B + on the cell phone and Zwift with Misuro B +.
Result:
The Elite Novo Force has 8 positions, so I selected the 5/8 position. In Misuro B + 9 blinks were configured. In Zwift I selected Misuro B + as a cadence and power sensor. There is some difference in utilization, but it was much more precise than in position 3.
Take the tests and comment!

Hi Adilson,

I have tried your configuration, really works!
The level 5 is more realistic, no doubt here, the resistance and the stroke are very close to real world, but my misuro usual config (7 blinks) respond with an lower wattage in the plans, and this are a mess, specially with you like to race in zwift…
With 9 blinks the result is more close in plans and not to distant in uphill but in downhill is very unprecise, too low or too high, however this first situations covers 90% of Zwift!

Congratulations!

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Valeu Gabriel!
Thanks!

Do you use blink 7 and set the trainer to Novo Force? And what tire size do you input?

Which trainer did you select? Novo Force?

With what you mean in Zwift settings, no…

In Zwift you don’t need to select any trainer, after setting your Misuro to 7 blinks, when pairing with Zwift automatically appears the ā€œcorrectā€ Elite trainer.

Only this!

Thanks for the response. Zwift asks to select a trainer model and the power output differs based on the trainer. Should I select the trainer corresponding to 7 blinks or the real trainer that I have (Novo Force)?

Also, what resistance level do you apply? 3/8?

1 Set misuro to 7 blink’s.
2 start zwift and don’t select any trainer
3 search for power meter
4 zwift will find a new power meter and controlable device, use it! Only it!
5 search your HC monitor, Cadence if you have one or both

Go zwift

You don’t need set a trainer or tire size because only power meter count’s.
Speed will be calculated by you power generation and interaction with route. Zwift Emulates speed.

Very important to adjust weight and height in profile, power is calculated by watts per kg or lbs.

Ok

Zwift will assume that you’re using an elite Arion, but it was automatically, don’t need any selection of trainer

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