New Robopacer Routes!

Turn trainer difficulty to 0, problem solved.

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just saying, there are more opportunities to do long zone 2 rides on flat routes other than robopacers, lots of community events do them too. Or you could just ride tempus fugit anytime you want.

Less drops, though.

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No, the issue (again) is with dynamic pacing there are power swings on the hills with pacers. Those power differences still show up regardless of trainer difficulty.

Of course people can always ride on their own, but if they want an always on social group ride at a relatively consistent pace, then a pacer on flat can be much different than a pacer on a hilly course, particularly if you are much heavier than the pacer.

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Zwift needs to bring back steady power / speed robopacers (of lighter weight too). This would help.

We got another robopacer added recently so UX concerns mentioned before are obviously not an issue now.

But on your own you cannot do almost 120km in 3 hours at 2.5w/kg, while with a robopacer you get this elevated pace. It’s all about distance for some riders who must have 2500km/week. Folks even teleport still to top of the mountains to get free fast distance just for the sake of getting more distance fast.

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I think this is the real reason people want their pacer bots on flat routes… the inflated ego of seeing they did 120km in 3 hours, when in reality they didn’t go anywhere while riding indoors on a trainer. I’m sure this is an unpopular opinion, but distance doesn’t matter inside, only time in zones matter…

Today you can find Bernie on Big Flat 8, Miguel on the Fan Flats in Richmond, Maria on Wasted 8, and Coco on the Magnificent 8. While there are a few areas with climbs like Jarvis on Wasted 8, and the reverse Hilly KOM on Magnificent 8, the rest of the route is basically flat (they even go through the desert). Over 90% of the route is ā€œflatā€ in the case of Magnificent 8… so what is the real problem???

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On hilly bits, the problem is the robopacers still get dropped- so the power increase needs to be much, much greater. :wink: (Cue protests)

Or, the folks zooming in front of the robopacer all the time get a countdown timer for 30 seconds before they are zapped over to the next faster robopacer. :wink:

You watch, pace will be much more steady. :wink:

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this… all of this

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How about elevation only counts if you did it in sim mode? :wink: (ie, erg mode doesn’t give elevation gain).

While people are pushing unpopular opinions and all that… Or is that a different case? :exploding_head:

I see your wink.

Would you suggest that elevation gained should be proportional to Trainer Difficulty setting then?

Speed/distance in ERG mode still depends on gradient.

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