New Halo Bikes, New Drop Shop Bikes [March 2025]

About time too, prevent this sort of thing:

Even the best world tour pro riders are terribly slow compared to above.

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Still doesn’t top the guy sitting on his sun lounger in Cyprus drinking cocktails and doing 100’s of kms and putting it on strava!

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I am doing something wrong …

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Guess they could beat that if they also are just going downhill.

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Not all bike rides are just downhill.
At least they shouldn’t be.

I know, but the example Chris showed was clearly one of downhills.

One would assume “delta” here refers to the difference between either (a) uphill and downhill or (b) power and distance over time.

“Cheating” function is likely some kind of account flagging they have or a code-based flag on equipment.

The use of “cheating” is interesting because it speaks to how whatever is being monitored is viewed internally.

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Yeah funny it doesn’t say

PreventBikeProgressWhenPlayerTakingAcceptableAdvantageOfGameMechanicsThatTotallyArentEvenALoopholeTechnicallySpeaking: false
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If it is that simple though, I am wondering why havent they put this into the game years ago to prevent weird and unlogical weight and height changes.

That is more of a problem than these minimal advantages you get with upgrading the frames.

that will likely get caught by the “cheating” flag now too

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What, and our IRL riders also magically teleport to the top and repeat again and also take hairpin bends at 115km/h? And say “it’s just a game”.

Nope.

Given the word “cheating” used in the code, hopefully that shuts down the mental gymnastics people are using to defend the use of these teleporting loopholes.

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I’m going to say that cheating is definitely the guys running ant+ simulators, scaling through qz, or zpower on zero resistance - like the guys running around at 5.8 w/kg for hours on end.

I don’t see any future for competition on trainers without secure, trusted communication between devices and apps.

I don’t love the teleport, etc. - but they’re part of the game, not cheating. This was easy behavior for Zwift to predict.

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teleport would be discouraged via “delta”

We knew that would happen after all the heavy defending of late joining the big spin events. Any attempts to suggest that loophole should be closed off met with outrage and indignation.

So it was only natural people would extend the “fun” to bike upgrades.

And prior to that, the level up bots and elevation bots (unlock tron) as well.

So the halo bikes will be seen as “halos of shame” thanks to the folks using bots and doing teleports to cheat the upgrade process because those hacks are so obvious.

Then the script hack mentioned previously was even more glaring. A minute or two of effort and bam, everything unlocked and upgraded.

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I don’t know that the two are connected–upgrades and Big Spin junk. It’s hard to draw an equivalence between late joining to get things that are largely useless and endless non-riding of bikes to get racing advantages. That’s a bit like saying the cops allowing people to speed a little bit on the highways makes people feel free to commit vehicular homicide.

The people who were going to teleport and descend were always going to do that, Big Spin or no Big Spin.

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Agree - There is no correlation between Big Spin and teleport dropping. I had to do 48 spins to unlock the missing prize . I had to do 100s of kms! I late joined probably about a 3rd of them. I did not ‘extend the fun’ to teleport dropping !!

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Newest version of the exploits, teleport to top of mountain then pedal down so you won’t get caught if Zwift is checking.

Same guy today as yesterday. From a major team with events and their own jerseys. Over 100km of this behaviour.

And joined by a rival from another team.

This stinks. :enraged_face: I’m genuinely riding up ADZ putting in proper effort and isn’t good seeing that.

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Delta could also apply to weight changes. O_o

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still should be fairly easy to check. Only count x amount of downhill km to bike upgrades if y amount of elevation is done first.

It might be annoying on a few routes that start higher but there is not many. Jungle pens maybe but are people really going to be bothered that they miss a couple k of distance downhill before it starts to count.

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A simple method, don’t count km if elevation drop is more than 125% of elevation gain. That would keep all (I think, I didn’t check them all) downhill courses as valid, and stop the drop riders from teleporting to the top of AdZ

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