New Halo Bikes, New Drop Shop Bikes [March 2025]

[Peter_Twigt (Peter)]

@Steve_Cl

Why should some users get a head start towards blinging up thier bikes ahead of others, due to luck of when they receive the 1.86 update?

It takes around 1600km to fully upgrade the best frames. One or two days wont make that much difference. Unless people go full bot mode and do 1600 km in two days.

[Peter_Twigt (Peter)]

Will we able to see on what level of frame the competition is in a race ?

[calfzilla (Michael)]

@Steve_Cl

Why should some users get a head start towards blinging up thier bikes ahead of others, due to luck of when they receive the 1.86 update?

Did you also complain about other people having a day’s head start on the lightning socks challenge?

[Mike_Rowe1 (Mike)]

@Peter_Twigt

Will we able to see on what level of frame the competition is in a race

doubtful, you can’t see this information now (as in what bike and wheels they have equipped) other than by looking at them on screen… so how would you know if they have upgraded it?

[Alex_Eames (Alex)]

@Steve_Cl

Why should my Scott Addict be slower than yours over a race lap of Grand Central, if we put out the same numbers and are the same weight/height, simply because I’ve only just bought mine and you’ve had yours for a while and have fully blinged out the upgrades?

Why should I at level 61 be able to use a fully blinged up S-Works Venge in a Tiny Race on Tempus Fugit, against a Zwift newcomer in my pen, using a Zwift Aero frame at best?

Neither scenario is right.

I completely disagree. It’s because the upgraded person has put in the game time to earn their upgrades.

Zwift are doing their best to give people an incentive to keep Zwifting. I like it. You may not. That’s OK. We don’t need to agree.

[Alex_Eames (Alex)]

@calfzilla

Did you also complain about other people having a day’s head start on the lightning socks challenge?

You’re TWO W/kg.hours ahead of me. It’s not fair!

[Oliver_ZRace_Central (Oliver Chi)]

I think people fail to see that people have worked hard to get this gear, they weren’t just unfairly gifted it.

[Steve_Cl (Steve)]

A rookie and master of online Unreal Tournament deathmatch both start the map with the same weapons, with the same performance.

Giving the master a rocket launcher, while giving the rookie a revolver, is not right.

[Alex_Eames (Alex)]

I think it took me about 8 months to get the Tron, and I had to climb much more than I would have chosen to do otherwise.

It’s going to take me more than a year to get the full 800 W/kg.hours for the aero socks (based on last year’s ride data).

I think it would be GROSSLY UNFAIR if a NOOB was able to get those items without putting in the work.

[Peter_Twigt (Peter)]

@Mike_Rowe1

so how would you know if they have upgraded it?

Different colors perhaps ?

[Arend_teRaa (Arend)]

Big Mig is out trying to sell the Pinarella Espada

[R_onald]

One of the best new updates. Great new feature! Thank you Zwift!

I really like nerding out before a race, and I think this might be interesting.

This is not only nerding out before a race, but also in what to invest, and even selecting the right investment for the training/ group ride.

Curious if the difference will stay when joining something like FRR when everybody is on the Zwift aero

[Will_Zoeller (Will)]

I like it

[Cary_Stewart (Cary Stewart 7806)]

NICE!!! Going to put in more work to get to level 40 as fast as I can, but I still love my Canyon Aero since I can customize the color.

[Dave_Konicek]

@shooj
Are the Halo Bikes all TT frames? From what I’ve read about them, maybe the Specialized and Cannondale are road frames, while the Pinarello is TT.

[shooj (Shuji)]

@Dave_Konicek

@shooj
Are the Halo Bikes all TT frames? From what I’ve read about them, maybe the Specialized and Cannondale are road frames, while the Pinarello is TT.

@Dave_Konicek
The Pinarello Espada is considered a TT bike. The other halo bikes are road bikes.

[Chris_D9 (Chris)]

@Alex_Eames

completely disagree. It’s because the upgraded person has put in the game time to earn their upgrades.

Put in the effort using simulant+ or another app?

That’s what is probably going to happen when people want upgraded bikes to use for racing.

[Alex_Eames (Alex)]

that’s a whole other discussion. I can’t believe it’s not possible to detect bots and prevent their use in this way at least to some extent.

[Chris_D9 (Chris)]

you can’t really check for them because that person might just be doing ERG mode workout and controlling trainer via their Garmin.

Aside from folks riding at 450w for hours which some do. People actually go as far as faking the power, cadence and HR data so it looks real.

It’s very much pertinent to this discussion - with the quite large gaps in performance people will definitely cheat the upgrade process to get advantage in races. Like that guy who cheated to get the Tron faster for racing then got himself banned.

Races maybe should look at fixed bikes to avoid that. Everyone rides identical frames.

[Mike_Rowe1 (Mike)]

@Chris_D9

Aside from folks riding at 450w for hours which some do

I flagged a guy last night doing a steady 494 watts for over 48 miles in London… on a TT bike… maybe he was already trying to get some upgrades? Or the lightning socks? Oh yeah, and no HR