I don’t think they are expecting anyone to toggle their trainer difficulty before a scaled portal - if that was really a goal they’d need a prompt to get people to toggle it on/off - since not many folks will go into settings to do that just for one climb portal climb I would imagine.
They mentioned they were trying to make the climb portal more accessible to a broader range of folks. At lower trainer difficulty it still takes a long time to do a lot of these longer climbs, not everyone can sit on the trainer for an entire Col Du Tourmalet at low wattage given how long that would take I guess…
To me the answer would have been to ensure there’s a short and a longer climb portal active at any time, but they implemented scaling instead.
I just learned of the Trainer Difficulty setting from a GCN video. Looking into it more, I read that it should not affect power output - I’m guessing because you ride slower on steeper gradients. Is that pretty much true even at 100% elevation scaling here? It certainly explains why some gradients felt easier than outdoors, but I don’t ride with a power meter outdoors so I can’t compare.
Mainly, just want to get a good training effect. If power is the same, we’ll, great.
did the willunga climb at 100% descended then did a u-turn and went up at 75%, got informed wouldn’t be on the strava leaderboards, this I know, did the climb then did it again at 50% all in the same ride
The entire ride on strava has been excluded from the segment, where I would expect the first climb to have registered seeing as it was at 100%, this also means I don’t have the distance nor the elevation registered towards any monthly goal not the stats in my strava club
so is this zwift putting something in the fit file to tell strava to exclude it from results due to doing multiple climbs at different scaling?
My guess is that if a ride contains a climb at reduced scaling then the ride will not upload. you wouldn’t be able to upload part of a ride and not the rest so the whole thing would have to be excluded.
to do that you’d need to save an exit after the 100% climb and then do the others if you want it to appear in strava.
In 1 lap, I got 250XP, then second lap I got 4x 250XP, 3 of them in a row. Then a few laps without big XP bonus. By end of my ride I had 13 of the big XP bonuses over 82km.
Oh wow, that’s pretty solid. My last climb portal ride I had my longest drought of large XP bonuses: My first two laps I got one 250XP bonus each, but I didn’t get another in my last 4 laps. Usually I get about one per lap, so that 4 lap absence of 250XP is the longest I’ve gone on a climb portal without one.
The “banners” work in strange ways, sometimes you’ll get non stop feathers for three laps or endless 10XP, but then it’ll give you the 250XP frequently.
Just keep going through that.
At one point some people found a way to get 10x 250XP bonus per lap… but that’s gone.
I think there is a problem with unlocking the 125% elevation in the climb portal. Yesterday I selected the La Laguna Negra symbol with 50% elevation from the zwift main screen (not within an existing ride) and started the ride. After successfully finishing at the top, I rolled down and out of the climb portal gate. Next I rode the 75% and 100% climbs and finished both successfully. But when I tried to ride 125% after the 100% down in Watopia in front of the gate, I saw that there was a lock next to the symbol, i.e. this elevation was closed for me and that’s the problem. My workaround was to finish the current ride, select 125% elevation from the zwift main screen and start the ride. In this case there was no lock symbol for the 125% elevation bevore the gate. I have the zwift Version 1.57.1. Please check for the problem, thx.
If I recall, that’s expected behavior to unlock the 125%.
In order for Zwift to “know” you’ve done 100% before it unlocks 125%, you have to complete the ride.
I’m not sure if that’s the end-all solution.
That is “per design”, unfortunately. I have reported it a while ago and Zwift’s response was that you need to save the activity with 100% difficulty first before it allows you to try 125%…that rules out few use cases like progressively harder climbs in one ride that you or me did. I hope that they will change it in future.
Strava (sorta) - as far as I’m aware doing a portal climb at <100% will exclude any efforts you’ve done on that ride (I’m guessing zwift will set some sort of flag on the activity file as it’s exported to strava)
It’s basically the same behaviour as if you were to do a climb at 100%, came down, uturned and did another climb in the same ride at 75% - both 100% and 75% efforts will be excluded from strava’s segments.
Only thing I can think to suggest is to possibly crop that activity in strava to only have the gamified portal climb on it, then download the fit file from zwift; crop that to only your race efforts and upload that to strava as a separate activity.
And more generally to keep stuff you want to keep (segment efforts / races) and stuff you don’t mind being ignore (<100% portal climbs) on separate activities on Zwift I suppose (not that that’s any use for this instance right not I appreciate).
Yeah I’ve seen the behaviour with swapping the grade %.
Today’s is far from the end of the world, I just didn’t expect it. But your explanation would be the simple thing for zwift and Strava to do.
