I can’t wait to find out what’s gone on to make ZRS think you belong with the 4wkg guys …
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Paul, its lowly 209w 24th Jan ( 70-80 down on last year, when I was 6kg lighter).
I can ask support to cancel my few races where I changed my weight, but unless they can drop me a cat, then I don’t see the point!
The problem is, when I enter the C races, I get dropped straight away, so riding the whole race on my own isn’t fun and I am not going to be able to push myself till the end, so my ave watts aren’t going to be helpful.
If I ride with others, I can push myself and get a realistic w/kg, but I am not getting the chance or choice to do that.
What’s the W/kg for that PR?
I think in theory the support people can do whatever they want with your data. I don’t know if they will but they have the ability.
If you get dropped and soldier on to the finish doing the best you can, your trophy will be dropping your racing score, if it’s not already at the floor value, which potentially could lower your category. If you DNF, you stay where you are.
Yeah, its not accurate at 3.48w/kg (2.68 if my weight (78) was correct), my ftp is 185.
I have just replied to supports email where they say they can’t do much.
I did 2/3rds of yesterdays race on my own and my NP was 189w by the end.
I’ve never been one for TT’s, so keeping focused and riding a whole race solo is not one of my best fortes, but I’ll try.
That’s only going to make things much worse for you.
You need to ride at your real weight and let the system figure out the right category you should be in.
Put your weight to what it really is and struggle in a few races and wait for the changes in race score to happen.
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Given the 5 minute PR set at a false weight, the damage may last for 90 days from 24 Jan because the racing score floor has been raised accordingly. If that hadn’t been done, finishing races might have corrected it or at least had a better chance of getting to the right place.
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OP is asking open how to Sandbag ?
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So should I not post about how to do it easily and within 24hrs?
You just need to start turning the pedals over and don’t worry about racing.
Whatever kept you off your bike, happened and now you gotta get back on the bike before you start racing your bike.
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What happened to the ZRS feedback threads?
I’ve decided the whole system is broken. B and C is full of potential A riders who don’t need to try and then win 1 in 4 sprints keeping them in a lower cat. It’s just a global “pace and race” system for folks.
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it’s really about the guys at the back and maybe in the middle of the ranges rather than the sharp end and they don’t really hang out on the forums
it needs work. zrs needs a zp equivalent, anti tanking (probably) needs to be a little more robust (exhibit 1, 50% of an advanced pen being people racing up in order to tank their score: https://www.youtube.com/live/zzOOeEvn4DI) and imo more organisers should probably change the pen ranges up more often a bit instead of sticking to the defaults. but right now it’s hard for them to do that because they don’t know enough about the system to know whether the ranges for their series need adjusting or not… i cant blame them, my eyes glaze over when i try to read the trueskill documentation too
and zhq should probably tell people they’re actively working on all this stuff. i know they are
Won a C race today.
14th in that race after being solo for 2 of 3 laps.
There are 3 batches of riders that need to be impacted;
- clearly riding below their ability to pace and race. (the winner)
- really bad at the game but high powered (14th)
- people who reset their racing score through a fairly obvious exploit to see what C racing was like.
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ZHQ should know how the system works, yet they organize their own Epic Races - mass start 0-1000 category. Most egregiously, it of course basically guarantees that D and E ability entrants will get a score reduction no matter how hard they work, and likewise any A or B racer looking to increase their score, should be pretty much also guaranteed an increased score outcome. Ridiculous. This event-type shouldn’t be allowed to even exist while using ZRS.
But that is exactly what a lot of complainers about the CE system were cheering for when ZRS came. That those dont win every race.