That’s a shame, line choice is a key part of time trialling!
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Yes, but until steering devices are more ubiquitous, we are giving an advantage to those who have them in iTTs. So until that changes we need to keep things balanced.
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Will it be handled by defaulting settings in the event definition or controlled by the game client (so the client enables steering unless disabled in event settings)?
I’m asking because I want to display it correctly at ZwiftHacks.
My understanding is that with the exception of iTTs, it will be on by default with no event settings required to make this happen.
iTT would need an event setting in order for steering to work.
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EDIT:
happy to soon 
More below:
FunThing:
On M1/M2-Macs the installer nags about that Rosetta is required for intstalling Zwift …
… BUT … if you expand the installer-PKG by hand (via terminal) and then open the Zwift.app it works find and the App is downloading data 
So, Zwift, I guess you have to update your Installer 
For those who want to expand it via Terminal:
- Open Terminal and go to the directory where you downloaded the Zwift installer
- Then type:
pkgutil --expand-full ZwiftInstaller.pkg Zwift_Installer
- Now type:
open Zwift_Installer/Zwift.pkg/Payload/
and you will see the Application.
For those who are interested, here is the output for the file:
Terminal output:
$ file Zwift.app/Contents/MacOS/ZwiftLauncher-OSX
Zwift.app/Contents/MacOS/ZwiftLauncher-OSX: Mach-O universal binary with 2 architectures: [x86_64:Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64] [arm64]
Zwift.app/Contents/MacOS/ZwiftLauncher-OSX (for architecture x86_64): Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64
Zwift.app/Contents/MacOS/ZwiftLauncher-OSX (for architecture arm64): Mach-O 64-bit executable arm64
UPDATE:
The actual App is not ARM-Ready and still requires Rosetta
~/Library/Application\ Support/Zwift/ZwiftAppMetal
~/Library/Application Support/Zwift/ZwiftAppMetal: Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64type or paste code here
file ~/Library/Application\ Support/Zwift/ZwiftApp
~/Library/Application Support/Zwift/ZwiftApp: Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64
Still no news on Video Clips coming to PC?
(not sure why this was promised if there’s no intention of implementing it??)
Until steering devices are ubiquitous it will give an advantage in all races.
When will steering come to the Tacx neobike?
Last updates from @evan-zwift indicate it is still in development.
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I’ve considered a Tacx Neobike but have been put off due to the lack of steering. I’d have thought Tacx/Garmin might have offered some assistance to Zwift in getting this operational, especially if steering is to become a lot more common. That’s a lot of potential lost sales.
I’d also expect Zwift to be selling their own (branded?) steerer soon.
No, it won’t give an advantage in all races. If you have the possibility of trying it, you’ll easily understand that in a pack situation.
When will steering come to the Tacx neobike?
The work is planned/on-going, but no clear ETA at the moment.
1.39 on Windows 10 - when selecting images for inclusion in the saved activity the attempted inclusion of this ride summary screen…
accepts the selection check mark, but replaces the screen print image with a different image, making the desired image vanish.
I had to exit the ride saving sequence (Escape key) to generate an additional print of this screen and try again. Even then there was something flaky and i had to check/uncheck/check until i achieved the desired outcome.
Star assignment for the highlight image also seems to have a mind of its own. Also, prior to 1.39 it’s recently come to my notice that the ride summary screens are never auto-selected for saving (I think they used to be) whereas the auto-selected screen(s?) seem rather random and actually not of interest to me.
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Same thing happens with ATV. If you select your own image and it’s replaced by Zwift with a different image, just click on that image again and it should swop back to the one you want. A bit of a pain, but it works.
Unfortunately I can’t, because my device is unsupported and the companion app revamp missed this feature.
I know it can be hard to put a timeline on things but for neobike steering are we talking weeks, months, “zoon?” Before or after route-based workouts are in the game?
Just noticed the addition of steering now available in all events and wanted to voice an early concern, only to also follow with perhaps a worthwhile answer to write up on a whiteboard somewhere and keep an eye on.
Steering during races… can have a pretty big “unfair” impact, this we all know (how much someone cares… is entirely up to them, for me, Zwift is a fun game, and I’m able to keep that established).
Getting the inside line on super tight turns does have a huge affect on who gets placed where in a group; course depending… that does start to end up to multiple seconds of less effort / ride time. (we’re talking the super unrealistic turns that is, the U turns like Constitution Hill in front of Buckingham in London, or the northwest turnaround in Richmond, which are very well known to break up groups because of this effect, specifically in group rides.)
But what happens when someone that does have steering capabilities just starts zig-zagging down the road for an entire race? If my non-steering avatar doesn’t know what to do, that zig zagger is just going to be given a burrito essentially the whole race.
Again I realize this might be the 1%, hence the comment on worthwhile writing on a whiteboard and being reminded of it if it does come up again.
If steering riders go and abuse the system by zig zagging for an entire race just to avoid drafting; there should be drag penalty for “over-steering.” Just as how it would be in the real world; if some cyclist zig-zagged all over the place, 1. They’d technically be covering more distance (but I don’t believe this is true in Zwift). 2. They would be producing more drag on the ground anyway.
So I figured this might be worthwhile consideration; also because… anyone spotted doing this in a “Professional” Zwift race… would just make all of us look like clowns.
Hopefully making it a bigger deal than it might be, again just wanted to voice an early concern for something that… knock on wood doesn’t even become an issue.
(But I’ve seen people do it in ToW rides… because sure why not. And it was at the very least, incredibly annoying watching their rider do it was much and as long as they did.)
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I believe they would cover more distance. Steering vs Distance: Testing the Sterzo On Alpe du Zwift | Zwift Insider
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I know it certainly has an affect on distance through turns; but … on the straights, is more or less what I’m not sure about, which where my concern is coming from.
I’m not entirely sure any distance is added while zig-zagging down a strait section of road (which of course, in the real world we all know, does).
I observed this recently in a race and it was a little bit annoying with just one rider, but imagine a pack of 100 riders with half of them swerving all over the place. Yuck.
zig zagging all over the place adds distance to a route. Plus those with steering activated can’t force anyone to move over, and those with steering I believe are more susceptible to being pushed to the side. IOW, my experience is you no longer are randomly assigned a position in a peloton, you have to attempt to find space in order to move where you want, and if the space isn’t there you can’t do so.
TLDR: there are both advantages and disadvantages to steering.
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Sorry, but it hasn’t, and I can’t stress that enough. There is no racing advantage for those using steering.
In fact it probably just makes the game harder and more realistic If you have steering enabled.
In a regular race with drafting, you will be required to be alert at all times or you might loose the best drafting position easier. Besides, if you have someone next to you, you can’t steer magically over other riders, you will have to wait to have more clear space to steer.
if steering riders go and abuse the system by zig zagging for an entire race just to avoid drafting;
I you are avoiding drafting you are essentially doing an iTT 
Why would someone want to do that in race?
That won’t be effective in breaking away also, given you will be covering more distance…
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I assume they mean zig zagging to avoid people behind drafting them.