DNF thanks to auto-join

The auto-select feature is not very nice when racing Tiny races or Wacky races etc.

Auto-select pop up 4 minutes before the next race begins, and if you don’t dismiss it within 30sec (in the middle of a race!!) you’ll be moved to the next event 3,5 min before the race begins. That’s way too early in these races.

This got me DNF right on the finnish line of the first race :poop::poop: I have a laptop, a screen and the Companion app setup and since the feature can’t be controlled via the companion app, I have to jump off the bike to reach the laptop. So second race I had to jump of the bike in the middle of a climb for this not to happen again. That’s 2 out of 3 races ruined :enraged_face:

As discussed over here…

Given that it is how it is right now and you need to race right now, I would be looking at a workaround such as a Bluetooth keyboard with a built-in trackpad that you can keep closer to you.

or the click/play (if you can still find play controllers) controllers should also work and do lots of other things in Zwift that are good for racing.

I’m just going to take a chair to put the laptop on to have it closer, but it’s still a :poop:feature especially thinking about those back-to-back events

Thanks for the previous conversation on the matter!

I tested this for a race today using my Companion App.

With 3 minutes to go the countdown timer started on my laptop. Rather than reach for the laptop, which I normally do, I looked at my companion app and I believe I had two options - Join Event and Not Yet. I clicked on Not Yet and the countdown timer on the Laptop disappeared, leaving Join Event option still on Laptop. With 15 seconds remaining I joined the event without seeing any further reminders.

If your Companion App is within reach you might want to try that option, but move your laptop to a chair just in case.

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Likewise, I see this option in Companion App. I don’t know how long it’s displayed before you’re automatically moved to the pen though.

I’ve got one of the waterproof mobile phone holders on my handlebars with a wired mouse on. It’s not perfect, but is reasonably cheap and does the job; it even stays on during some sprints.

Probably one of the most useful Christmas stocking fillers I ever received. I use IPad for Companion App and like it to just be out of the way to one side and no dripping sweat on it at all.

I think you only get one prompt and 30 second countdown to automatically join the pen if you don’t take action. I believe that is 3 minutes out from the start of the event. (I think it used to be 5 minutes out). So I believe you have those 30 seconds to take action before being automatically taken to the start pens.

You get other prompts, prior to the 30 second countdown, asking whether you wish to join or not but these, non countdown ones, can be ignored.

Easiest option is not to enter races 2, 3 and 4 in advance. Just join each race from the home screen.

It is, but I did not see the options on Companion, only on my laptop? Did you try it during a race? I meen that would solve the problem since I have my phone with the app on a tray right in front of me all the time.

That is an option. Just makes them harder to find in a hurry, if you only have like a minute to go.

No didn’t try from one race into another only warm up into a race. Never done Tiny Races so don’t know whether they use exactly same automatic join rules. May have to give them a go and see.

Those of us in pens D and E in Tiny Races often have less than 90 seconds from finishing one race to making the next pen in time having signed up to all four in advance, as Eric is increasingly pushing the custom route limits for those of us averaging ~2.2W/Kg.

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That’s probably why I didn’t get the option on Companion.

You should definitely try Tiny races! Atleast to see why this is so annoying in those races :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

This☝🏻 Sometimes you only have like 20 seconds between the races

Two interesting posts I found on Reddit:

@Eric-Schlange-ZI “I hope Zwift changes this behavior soon… I’ve told them in the past that riders should NEVER be taken out of an event and into another unless they click a button to do so.

I just shared your story with an internal contact in ZHQ. Maybe it’ll help move the needle on this.”

And

JM “I think I agree if you’re in one event it should take a click to leave that event and join the next, but I can also tell you that’s going to annoy a bunch of other people that line up a bunch of events that they’ll now have to click to join.”

Not easy to please everyone. Personally I would like to automatically be taken out of a warm-up or free ride (I might be filling a water bottle or on final pre race preparation) but wouldn’t automatically want to be removed from another race.

Yeah, I’ve asked ZHQ more than once to change how this works, because it can make Tiny Races especially messy.

It makes no sense that you can be automatically removed from an event you’re in, to the start pens of another event.

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I agree with you. It’s fine to be moved from a pre-race or where-ever but not from another race! (Well back-to-back races might be fine too if it would happen like 10 sec before the next race starts)

I actually gave Zwift feedback directly, and they adviced me to post here :smirking_face:

are the forums a ‘talk to the hand’ thing?