I won’t vote for this feature, as on the Zwift worlds it would turn Strava into a complete mess, while with Indie Velo’s implementation the different “worlds” are really just different regions within a world. Zwift already does something similar, I suspect. I doubt they are rendering fine details of the jungle when you’re riding in the desert, for example.
However, I would very much like to see an expansion on most of the worlds: in particular France, Paris, Bologna, Innsbruck, Scotland, and Crit City.
Zwift is fully dependent on Strava for success, I suspect. It’s by far it’s #1 marketing tool, and main venue through which participants in an activity interact. There’s no way within Zwift to “message” other riders in an activity afterwards, for example. That’s done on Strava. Zwift needs to work with Strava.
because some people don’t want to do a thing because their strava will look weird doesn’t mean that the rest of us who don’t care about strava shouldn’t be able to do a thing.
You’re more than welcome to not do it if it is available.
I couldn’t care less about Strava and its maps that are already rather screwed up, but I like Gerrie’s approach - he doesn’t like the feature so he doesn’t use it. And let’s not forget, Strava could develop ways to handle the change in an elegant way. It’s not like this is an unsolvable technology problem. If they don’t do that then maybe they don’t care about their maps either.
I use Strava, but I don’t personally care much about the maps being messed up, or if they reset the leaderboards etc. (the maps already make it look like we’re biking in water during any of the tunnels which is odd enough etc). The use case I have relating to Strava GPS is just tracking the number of times I’ve done a route (in particular the Alpe, Ventop, or climb portal climbs etc), and my personal best times on these routes.
So, for me I’d prefer they find a solution that works for the maps, but it’s not a deal breaker, and I don’t think Strava maps should limit Zwift innovation. If they did come up with something that made the maps look odd, people who care could choose not to ride those specific routes if they don’t like it while the rest can get a ton of new interesting longer routes that are linked up to ride.
I’ll argue that the Zwift worlds and Strava are already messed up.
The Strava maps of France, Makuri and Scotland are rotated 90* from what you see in Zwift.
I mean, it’s not as if Zwift rides are supposed to map precisely to real world locations. Alpe du Zwift isn’t co-located with the real work Alpe d’Huez. London doesn’t follow real world roads much of the time (although some of it does).
Adding a few very long lines because someone has “teleported” from London to New York might make the map trace look a bit whacky, but it’s not the end of the world; and as already noted, it’s trivial to handle from a technical perspective (e.g. just don’t draw those connecting lines).
Would love to see some simplification, for exemple:
NY & Richmond = “America” World (or North America)
Scotland, London, Yorkshire = GB World
Innsbruck, France, Paris, Bologna = Europe World
Watopia
Makuri (maybe turn Makuri into Japan or Asia World)
Only 4-6 Worlds in the rotation (but bigger Worlds) … i like it much more, than a lot of worlds, but based on “small worlds”.
I think Zwift should just do this! Move everything to around Watopia, and then you at least save the Segment records for Watopia. And I guess all the old segment times would be saved on the old segments, you’d just have to look on two different places. That would be annoying, but maybe Zwift + Strava would work to transfer times over to the new, next-to-Watopia segments.
I would choose to have multi-world events saved into one activity every time. That’s what bugs me about the Tiny Races- you have 4+ activities instead of a single one, everything in one place.
I would much prefer riding through a tunnel to teleporting, and not teleport across the world. Just cut the losses and do what IndieVelo has done.