Yup. While in theory I agree with using current weights in practice it’s fundamentally flawed. Easier to sandbag than ever before by upping weight and immediately (well, overnight) you get downgraded. That’s why in B when I look at starting fields actually nothing really changed to before and after. Only good change was enforcing categories (which is common sense) not this flawed new categorisation.
I’ll see you in various sprints again soon then I reckon !
It’s all about border cases so changes in weight won’t be large. How can you tell I haven’t gained 1.5kg? While also the weight controls are all focused so no one can put a lower weight than in practice, not vice versa. Post bans are just less effective than improving the process. Conservative approach is max power in a period divided by lowest weight in same period. You will get complaints though as Zwift is apparently full of people that once can exceed their abilities which are then out of reach forever.
There have been numerous people on these forums who have increased their weight mere days after posting about cat enforcement and change of available categories.
Have these had a 3 month ban? Of course they haven’t as they are all still racing, some even still posting on this forum - no one is taking a 3 month holiday from racing for increasing their weight.
Law of unintended consequences or just poor design, the new system encourages more weight doping than the previous system.
24hrs after a change and you are back to sandbagging, atleast previously once they went over x3 they were in that cat for 90 days.
even if its a legitimate weight change? you’re opening up a whole world of problems if you/zwift start banning people but you then have to prove their weight change isn’t legitimate, are you/swift going to ask for people weighing themselves and sending it as corroborating evidence? there have been plenty of times I have raced with a lower weight than I actually was because i didn’t update my weight
In the initial post about CE @xflintx stated in reply to a post they would not lose their nerve when all the complaints started from Sandbaggers - You know what, they have.
IMO the weight change & the new cat boundaries were Zwift staff losing their nerve regarding the noise CE was making. Now trying to make tough statements like people will get banned for changing their weight is just silly - Everyone knows this isnt going to happen.
But the statement has been made, lets take it face value - If people post in here about CE and then raise their weight mere hours after getting their answer, should we expect them to be banned?
There are people who have posted in this very thread who have done it, but are still racing with no ban and continue to sandbag…
" Implementing scoring and categorization based on race results. While we are still in the extremely early stages of this work, it’s important to bring it to light. We don’t have all the details right now, as we are still exploring how to best implement this and are only in the early phases of work and experimentation. For now, it is sufficient to say that we will likely use scoring and categorization structures based on existing models, e.g. ZwiftPower and USA cycling."
Weigh in videos are setup to ensure you are not heavier than indicated. Not the other way around and again; we are talking a few kgs here. Another topic argued for allowing weight changes of 2kg per week. For most that’s enough to cat down when at border.