… removed
This is a completely different topic than the thread, so a moderator can split this off, but this is exactly why people do not use ERG mode with pace partners.
The zwiftinsider article has some photos of it sitting on a rocker plate. There will be a full review later, but no mention of any issues so far. The trainer provides the lateral stability far more than the front leg/wheel.
Can you mount wheels on it and ride it outside too?
I don’t think it has brakes
No way to mount a front wheel, and the handlebar can’t turn. But if it mounts to existing trainers you should be able to get a rear wheel on there. So it comes down to whether you can hold a wheelie the whole time.
2 Likes
Posting my video here as it’s been copied and posted but not linked… (Would appreciate the links/views if anyone is going to take content and repost it. Thanks!)
7 Likes
You’re right, sorry! I’ve edited my first post to add the video too. At the time of posting I was thinking “I’ve just posted one video on this, I shouldn’t post another so soon after”, but your calling me out on the content use is absolutely fair.
1 Like
Not interested for now as I have the kickr 4. Would love to use it but useless for kickr 4 and 5 owners. Zwift HQ get on whaoo to deal with this issue or it hurts the sales.
Regular keyboard, at least with indieVelo’s virtual gears (which of course work with any smart trainer, unlike the Zwift version). The proprietary solution for both gearing and controllers seems pretty dumb to me (but I commercially understandable I guess).
right, but if you can’t use any of the handlebar buttons, it’s pretty much a white elephant.
Maybe if they sold the frame on it’s own minus the handlebar for a couple of hundred dollars/pounds, at least you could put your own on and buy an Avotro. I can’t see that happening though.
They have said that they will open it up, but it will have to be seen to be believed.
1 Like
Similarly I have a zwift one hub and play controllers, plus a basic road bike. A set up with very comparable cost to the ride plus trainer.
Given that the one hub is discontinued and replace by kickr core, I would have preferred to invest in the ride as a complete package. It’s odd to me that the stand alone ride is not immediately available.
I’d happily trade in my one hub and controllers plus some cash in exchange for the ride… If zwift’s goal is to crack the hardware market, this is something they should consider going forward for customer retention.
1 Like
I was wondering the same. Here’s what I think he says is the range for Stack and Reach, and following that is an example geo chart that is fairly mainstream.
Yeah, it’s maybe non-standard measurement. Stack and reach are normally to the centre of the top of the head tube, and I think Shane’s measurements are to the handlebar.
That could account for 30mm or so I expect, so I think we need to wait for Zwift to publish the actual numbers as they’re normally measured.
I’m not 100% on that though, as the GPLama measurements might be better if you can’t “slam” the stem.
Any bike fitters in the house? 
the stack can be done that way, its the middle of the bottom bracket to the top of the headtube, so basically to the image posted earlier the orange line should really stop where the frame hits head tube meets the headset
Can This Be Used On A Rocker Plate?
The video reviewers so far have said yes, it should be possible.
I’d be slightly concerned about not being able to clamp down the front, but, that could be resolved once you have the product in hand. Alternatively; it might not matter at all.
1 Like
I’m not a bike fitter, but I am fairly certain normal stack and reach go from bottom bracket to headtube, as Daren mentioned. I believe some frame manufacturers include a Stack+ and Reach+ value, which would go to the handlebar. Nonetheless, on a ‘normal’ 39cm frame you are still fitting a stem (and the handlebar drops and the shifters have a reach too). Even on the smaller bike frames or gravel geometry options you would easily fit 6cm of stem length, which doesn’t seem to be required on this setup. In simpler terms, the 39cm minimum reach figure that is mentioned will probably fit most people. This also means the handlebar setup can likely not be retrofitted to a regular frame, but I am speculating here - just going by how things appear on the images.
Back to the zRide. All in all, it seems like a nice offering. But I have to stress that this proprietary approach is a no-go for me. And I have to admit that I find it ironic to see this route being taken by a software company that owes its very existence from all trainer manufacturers opening up their communication protocols. Buy this thing and get locked into Zwift, even as a cross-platform user? No thanks. My other concerns are with the availability of replacement parts. Are we always at the mercy of Z supplying the proprietary bottom bracket, will there ever be different crank length options, and will it be possible to replace the handlebar if the zPlay ever malfunctions (especially given the placement of some connections in the sweat zone)? It is a promising product, but for me personally these are all deal-brakers so I hope these can be ironed out.
Yep, that’s something I overlooked I think. IIRC my fitter did specify a reach and suggest a particular stem length; which maybe still fits within the range of the Ride.