Really interesting interview and insight into Eric’s thoughts. He mentions rowing coming to Zwift in a matter of weeks (55 minutes in) https://soundcloud.com/velonews/pyso-ep-60-zwift-ceo-eric-min-on-tradition-and-innovation He also mentions the World Championships and also tennis!!!

One year later still no rowing option. A. matter of weeks :rofl: :joy: :rofl:

I think zwift are suffering from the “Apple effect” early innovation/development meant they gained a decent market share and people will buy new version (or keep paying subscriptions) regardless of how good the new products are. So the conundrum is, spend loads of money to develop new features or products and really push innovation or just spend a bit on a slightly better camera/bigger screen/faster processor (or new bikes/kits/new roads in zwifts case) and the number of customers/users will be pretty similar afterwards .

I suspect they may have a spaghetti code issue. Fixing bugs and adding new features take longer than needed and any code changes have a much higher likely hood of introducing new bugs. I think zwift started as a hobby and then quickly grew to what it is now, so (at least from the outside) it is easy to see a code base turning to spaghetti. I’m hopeful that big UI update will come with refactored code base and much faster features releases will follow. And rowing, the prospect of rowing is what got me started on zwift.

No-one thinks you’re wrong about spaghetti code but the constant false announcements (not just with regards to rowing) is why I looked elsewhere.

[image] Neil_UK: I’d take the timeline with a pinch of salt. Or maybe a barrel :rofl:

[image] Brian_LaRochelle: I suspect they may have a spaghetti code issue. Fixing bugs and adding new features take longer than needed and any code changes have a much higher likely hood of introducing new bugs. I think zwift started as a hobby and then quickly grew to what it is now, so (at least from the outside) it is easy to see a code base turning to spaghetti. I’m hopeful that big UI update will come with refactored code base and much faster features releases will follow. And rowing, the prospect of rowing is what got me started on zwift. I think you might be right. I’m not a full developer, but having project managed enough development and developers I know how these things work. Rowing would have been interesting as an alternative.

I thought the “big” new UI release was killed (after being announced as ready) during covid lockdowns in 2020?? Surely they haven’t just been sitting around with a thumb up there butt about actually doing this. Then again maybe I’ve missed something “big” while I paid for the service but enjoyed the summer’s sun.

[image] Freighter: Then again maybe I’ve missed something “big” while I paid for the service but enjoyed the summer’s sun. You haven’t missed anything! Well apart from the increase in bugs in the game.

@Development Team… please add concept 2 rowing feature to Zwift.

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MikeBikes66 (MikeBikes) August 28, 2021, 8:44am 118

Apparently Jon posted this last week on Facebook so no rowing anytime soon on Zwift.

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