THERE IS NO CORRECT ORDER
the right sequence is the secret that brings the greatest improvement.
the wrong order, the alphabetical order destroys you.
example. the photo I uploaded a little above.
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Is that a photo of one of the Training Plans accessible from the Plans tab on the Zwift App - or one youâve imported as a zwo file? We know the latter need renamed.
itâs the legacy plan.
So - not one of those available directly from the App and therefore one of those that David has said will be renamed in the zip file?
what david said about legacy plans is not correct. there is no way to get the exercises in the right order
@Vasilios_Pantazis , my question was really aimed at @DavidP for some clarification, as i would have thought a series of workouts in a specific order was a training plan, and what you posted therefore was a training plan (until zwift messed up with the order)
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There is a site that lists zwift training plans in order, I believe.
A terrible solution.
https://whatsonzwift.com/workouts#zwift-plans
I am missing some of the workouts and now will have to write custom workouts to mimic all the ones I had available up till now. âRefreshâ is misery.
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Sorry Vasilios, but you are wrong. Maybe there are some communication problems here.
Youâre looking at the workouts provided by Zwift in the zip-file which are now listed in the custom workout folder. But these are separate workouts and not a training plan per se. As David already mentioned these workouts are in alphabetical order and will be corrected as soon as possible. If you want to find out the exact order immediately, you can find this information directly in the zwo file, mentioned by David.
But you also can enroll a training plan within zwift. In these training plans the workouts are in the correct order.
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Right, from what I read, it sounds like the ones that are out of order are not the ones chosen from the âPlansâ tab, but the ones that used to be grouped in order in the Workouts section. Those could in the past be done in an order, but now if you import them via the method suggested are now out of order.
That said, David mentioned that issue will be fixed, so hopefully it wonât be a problem for too long, until then they will need to use the whatsonzwift site to find the correct order which is not a great solution.
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I donât know for sure, but this is what I think/feel is wrong: I liked having every workout within a plan available as a collection because it let me do the training plan, but if I needed to miss a day or I wanted to substitute a day with a race or a different activity, I could. I did this over the past few months with the Gran Fondo plan (collection?)- because it was available as a Collection, I could do what workouts from it that I wanted without having to actually enroll in the Plan. Plans are great, but they donât let you access a workout from week 4 during week 2. I suppose order is fairly important, like doing Z2 block before you do high intensity, but I think the ability to do the workouts as the individual needs is more important. Plans as listed can be monotonous, and it helps to break it up according to what you feel (be it overtraining, soreness/injury, or just want to mix it up). Because if itâs not fun, why are you doing it?
I think the new collections are excellent, but considering that the previous library has been reduced it is hard to follow a training regiment unless you join an actual Plan.
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You are wrong, it is a training plan. I am attaching photos. In the training plan they are alphabetical and not in the order they should be. David assured us that it would be fixed.
To be fair order annoyed me a couple of times/ years
I did several plans in the past, last ones were crit-crusher and tt tune up.
The order in the menu (when you start up Zwift, it gives you the suggestion to start the workout) was different then it showed in ZC and it differs in the workout plan - tab.
Especially when youâre around the end of the week it shows you the following week through your current week.
So @shooj even when others are clearly confused by the workouts tab and âenrolledâ plans tab. There is actually (for a long time) something wrong with the order of enrolled plans.
Just a quick look. The entire TT Plan is in alphabetical order.
(Plan, Iâm not able to install the zip file, because atv and no access to a pc with Zwift)
Wow, late to the party here having just been on holiday but this is all ridiculous. Every training programme (or workout collection if thatâs the official term) I got any value from has now gone. Surely the fact that files were sent immediately for people to manually recreate these suggests that they were all popular? Looking back through the forum Iâm not sure I can even upload the files as Iâm an iPad user.
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I think that is correct, you will need to first load Zwift on a Mac or PC and upload there before it can sync to your iPad I believe. So you âcanâ get them on your iPad, but you need to first sideload them onto your profile on a PC or Mac from what I read above. I have not ever done this, so maybe someone else can confirm.
Iâm wondering why they didnât just throw all those plans they wanted to remove in a âlegacyâ folder/category at the bottom of the list as the first step rather than just removing them without notice. Seems like the easy way to clean up the UX and not derail people on a current âplanâ.
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Maybe this workout refresh/mess-up is part of the agreement with Wahoo? - We simplify our workout module, while being able to sell the Kickr Core replica, and you scrap RGT but get to be have the better workout offering and top-end trainers 
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How do I download all my favourite workouts with just Apple TV? This change is awful. Very dissapointed.
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Not possible. You would need to own or borrow a PC or Mac.
I donât really understand the logic behind which workout goes in which collection. It kind of looks like the original (less then 30, 30-60, 60-90, etc) collections have remained the same, but all of the rest of the workouts were grouped into the new categories.
It would make more sense to move all of the workouts into the new collections. As of right now to find a VO2max workouts, for instance, you have 8 or 9 collections that have VO2max workouts scattered throughout.
Put all of the VO2max workouts in the VO2max collection, all of the sweet spots in the sweet spot collection, etc. Then add the sorting menus that are in the âAll Workoutsâ section to each collection. This way if someone is looking for a specific type of workout of a specific length or difficulty they can more easily find them. Pair the collections down to the basic 6 of Recovery, Endurance, VO2max, Sweet Spot, Threshold, and FTP Tests then have filters within for time, difficulty, etc.
Oh, and use the same UI in all of the collections. Everything is vertical scroll only, except for the Zwift Academy which has both vertical and horizontal scroll⌠
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