Weights of biking pace partners?

Hello: Are the weights of the biking bots listed anywhere? For example, I’ve read that Diesel weighs 82kg; Cadence 65kg; Brevet 80kg; Anquetil 65kg. What about the newer ones? Thanks

Newer ones are all 75kg I believe.

It’s their heights we don’t know :slight_smile:

I remember @James_Zwift mentioned the height but can’t remember it off the top of my head.

You’re right… for the new ones. I don’t think we ever knew the original PP’s height. I think the new ones (from memory) are 175cms

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It would make life a lot easier if the weights and heights of all PPs were standardized.

Or, in the meantime, report the equivalent raw watts value corresponding to their W/kg.

Yep, totally agree.

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Is this a future upgrade? Moving all PP to 75 kg?
At the moment, it can be a bit confusing -
Imagine a Zwifter -

I can keep up with Daniela (2.15 w/kg 161 W) on the flats, and after a bit of practice, now I can keep up with Coco (2.5 w/kg, 163 W) on the flats, but
only barely with Denise on climbs - Coco leaves me in the dust

This discrepancy is mostly due to different weights in kg (and thus W/kg) not watts, which is not as visible to the Zwifters.

It creates a bit of cognitive dissonance.

I think it would make a lot of long-term sense to standardize all the PP at one weight (75kg, or whatever the most common weight reported by Zwifters is). Some short term pain (worth announcing in the PP weekly update) when the change happens and unfamiliar behavior starts with the older off-weight PP. But I think it is worth it in creating a ladder of PPs, so that Zwifters can aspire to get to the next rung/keep up with the next PP

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Yep, I’m going to change them all to 75kg, I think towards the end of August.

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Great! Makes total sense to me.