Tacx Neo 2T with Elite Rizer

There is some delay but overall I really enjoy it, don’t really notice it much. I only really notice it with fast changes in elevation. I’d miss it if I didn’t have it, just adds to the immersion.

Agreed, reaction a bit slow but overall worth it to be able to use the Neo which is way better than Kickr

Hi all, I have the neo 2t and the rizer. I have machined the drive side etc and have it working perfectly that way. However I have an issue with the it when I go from steady power then put an effort in (say 100watts more) the rizer lifts up like I was going up a hill. If I drop power it drops down. Is this normal or do I need to change settings??

Bonjour, j’ai un tacx Neo 2T et je viens d’acheter l’Elite Rizer. Tout a l’air de fionctionner à l’exeption d’un détail. Quand je suis dans une montée (exemple 8%), si j’arrête de pédaler, tout de suite le Rizer revient à -1%. Il n’attend pas les 5 secondes. J’ai modifié mon profil pour enlever le “safety mode” mais cela ne change rien. Avez vous le même comportement? Je ne sais pas si c’est un problème de configuration, de rizer ou de Tacx.
Au cas ou, avez vous toujours la référence des roulements que vous avez acheté?

Can please you say something about your modifications on the rizer? How did those turn out longterm?

I recently purchased a Rizer to go with my NEO 2T. Found that it didn’t munge my dropouts. All was good except the interaction with zwift left a lot to be desired. The first big issue was that if I tried to sprint the Rizer would have me pop a wheelie. It was fun the first time but it lost its appeal soon after. Definitely not something I could race with. The second issue was that I couldn’t get the down hills to work unless I was at trainer difficulty == 100%. Any pedaling would have the bike pointing upwards. I really couldn’t live with the trainer difficulty at 100%. (Yes I set the trainer difficulty in zwift and the rizer app). The third issue was that it just wasn’t getting all that close with its “guesses” as to the grade. Don’t get me wrong, I wouldn’t give it back even with all those faults, I just really wanted something better.

I looked at the top of the Rizer where the buttons were located. I looked at the adds for the switchbot buttons. This was the excuse I had been looking for to buy some of them. I bought 3 button bots and a hub. I 3d printed a mounting bracket and taped it to my Rizer. I installed one switchbot for the up, one for the down. I took an application that I had lying around that interfaced with sauce for zwift. I modified it so that I could get the current grade from sauce for zwift. Then I used the switchbot api to command the up or down buttons according to the current grade from sauce. With this I had something that worked pretty well. Given enough time it would get the grade dead on be it uphill or downhill. Accelerations had no affect. Unfortunately all is not perfect in that it takes about 5 seconds for a button push. This makes it slow to respond. Even with the slow response I wouldn’t think of going back :slight_smile: . Whole thing took about 5 hours (though most of the app was already written) to build/test, about $100, and a $24/year subscription to sauce for zwift (something I already had).

I am thinking about automatically raising the front of the bike when I get to the end of the ride/race. Sauce for zwift can tell me when I am near and software can do the rest. I will also try to auto detect sprints and raise the front a little bit. I also need to reset to zero when I stop, so that I can get off the bike on a hill.

I recommend using the QZ app as a bridge between Zwift and the smart trainer so that the QZ app can connect to Raise and pass the exact gradient sent by Zwift, instead of Raise having to estimate it based on power, cadence, and the rider + bike weight when connecting directly to the smart trainer.

Another option is to connect your app to the raiser via Bluetooth and control it directly by sending the gradient you get from Sauce.

But anything will be faster than manually pressing buttons.

Looking at QZ is on my list of things to do. The latency of my solution is bad but not scream at the thing annoying so I haven’t gone that route yet. Plus doing it all in software doesn’t have the cool little button pushers to look at :slight_smile: . I had been putting it off because I wasn’t sure that QZ could do what I want. Thanks for confirming there is a likely solution there.

I got it going with the QZ app. It took a while due to limited documentation. Seems like I lost the tacx road feel feature by doing it this way but I rarely used it. I set QZ up on my android phone. I used the tacx neo 2t as the trainer. I added the Rizer under the accessories options. Then QZ made a new virtual trainer with the bluetooth name of my phone. I connected to that device in the zwift pairing screen for power, resistance, and cadence. I got the feeling I could add virtual shifting while I was there but that is for a different day.

The results are that the Rizer follows the road inclination very well. I highly recommend the QZ solution.