Like “calfzilla”. 
Anyway, the Internet points clearly do matter to many of us. Arguing they don’t matter, or people asking “who cares” is itself pointless.
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And there’s only one i in aluminum
Agreed that when better stuff for racing could take a year or two to unlock the level stuff mattered. But with being able to get 95% of the way there with a month or two of committed riding, levels just don’t matter.
Update. You lost.
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I’m happy, finally nothing crashes if I level up.
It doesn’t matter that I can’t comprehend the mechanism.
Thanks, Evan. Any chance you guys can update the Companion App to display current XPs and level. As far as I can tell, you have to log in to the game, begin a ride, and hit the menu to see. Seems like an easy update, but what do I know? Thanks!
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Spot on, I couldn’t care what level I am, let alone what level anyone else is
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Horrendous idea. Changing the rules of the game on thousands of members because you changed your mind after releasing it into the community makes no sense.
The biggest issue with this proposed change is you create inequity in what it means to be level 100.
Yes leveling up was faster but it’s been fun to get some new awkward clothing for the garage after quite a long period of getting nothing.
I agree with posters saying change the level progression for levels 101 onwards . By creating a new model from 101 you can calibrate the next 100 levels to be a lot harder and apply missed details to the future benefits not the existing ones.
Why you are not considering the 101+ as your starting point for the new model makes no sense unless there is some limit on horrible clothing items you can add in your garage and the whole leveling system is a solution to a bigger problem.
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no one is forcing you to care.
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The old new system was already confusing enough, like, everybody has different XP thresholds for each level and different acceleration whatevers depending on where they were when it was changed, and the new new system maybe just adds another variable or two. Whatever, at least halving the “free” (streak) XP makes sense to me.
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I don’t think anyone here was confused on how it worked. The confusion is why Zwift keeps flip flopping. Stop making stupid decision in the first place.
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It seems from a users perspective Zwift is making decisions by throwing darts at the board. Is everyone at Zwift “Yes” men/women?
From a professionalism standpoint this looks really really bad.
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Shuji, could you at least make it faster for the riders that are well above 1M XP? As an example, I’m currently at 2.3M XP with over 112K kilometers ridden. I’m currently at level 90. I find it kind of weird to see riders with considerably less distance and XP than me being a higher level. I don’t think I’m alone in this situation… there are others that have even more distance and XP that are lower than I am, which seems silly.
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From the initial Post above: * You will not lose any levels or progress when moving to the revised system. Whatever your current level is, you will keep that same level in the revised system.
Not quite the same, but several of my friends and I had a friendly little competition with each other over levels that kept at least me motivated to keep pushing them. We were all relatively near each other. Level limits changed, and we were still are relatively near each other.
Just before Christmas, I found out I had a recurrence of a bone tumor on my lower leg. Surgery to get it out in January. Started recovering and had just barely gotten back on the bike (nowhere near up to speed) in February when complications put be back in the hospital for a week. I’m only just now getting back in the saddle (and way down in fitness, endurance, and mileage compared to December and Strava shows I’m getting further and further behind on my yearly mileage goals).
Friends are now 10+ levels up on me due to my lack of riding. I figured, “OK, I’ll just put in the work over the summer when they’re spending more time riding outside and get those levels back.” Then I saw this update that said that wasn’t going to happen. Would need lots more time/miles in a way that’s not practically possible.
Because I had the misfortune of having some serious health issues at the time when Zwift made it easy to rapidly increase levels and then are taking it away just as I’m getting back into riding, I missed out on my chance.
So now I’m leaning towards dropping my Zwift subscription after the ZRL finals until the ZRL season starts up again next fall and ride one of the other platforms over the summer.
Great marketing decision by them. /s
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I am kinda in the same boat. Thought about changing my monthly subscription to a year one, but now I am happy I didnt. If this change goes through I am skipping the summer also.
And when it rains there are free to use options to cycle indoors.
Changes are fine, some wel will like and some we dont, but they do have to count for everyone and not exclude a few.
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How could you manage that, ie, only be at level 90?
I know you ride heaps because I used to see you always in the robopacer groups very consistently.
Some untangling of the levels versus XP might go a way to solving this, folks with very high XP get moved up to whatever level they should be on mathematically.
Gerrie also probably should have that seeing his numbers.
I’m not as high in XP as either of you but still have quite a bit.
I’ve been in that boat in 2022 when everything changed with broken neck of femur. Maybe 6 months of hardly any riding on Zwift and a year of no outside riding and then not nearly at my old level. It’s frustrating but hang in there.
Make it faster for everyone. I don’t need “the satisfaction” of levelling up through XP I’ve already earnt. It’s frustrating, and doesn’t make me feel good. Certainly not satisfied.
Change the scale, again, if you must. But fast forward me to where my accumulated XP puts me, and let me level up from there.
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Please stick to the current system and put your energy into more meaningful topics like new routes or better training plans
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We got a bad deal being on Zwift for so long, every time there is a level increase we loose some of our progress.
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Chris, I was somewhere around 2M XP when they made increased from lvl 60 to 100, and I just haven’t been going the same rate during the time between the increase and now. The riders this hits the most are people that were Zwift early adopters and put in a bunch of miles, but have not been going at as hard of a pace since the increase in levels.
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