Stop race category cheats - opinions?

damn you really brought a 3 year old thread alive :rofl:

Post over in Racing Score updates [July 30 2024] - #198 by Peter_Twigt would be best place to get racing score feedback seen

@Gordon_Rhino-Racing mostly dead but not all dead, lol reboot 3 year post is so funny.

1 Like

lol. It all the hype on my last C group race - peeps were calling out the 2-3 riders exceeding the C power limits by just enough to split the field… it does boggle me that people have the energy capacity to chat while racing. Thanks for the link!

1 Like

The people making those comments most often have no idea what they are talking about and are simply wrong because they don’t understand how the category system works. Even if it turns out to be true, those riders get upgraded. Events with hills are great for getting people to show what they can actually do, which is a blessing because otherwise you’d see them again in the next race, which would be worse.

Well you’re basically just creating something where there’s no point racing.

Zwift is broken, the physics, the racing etc. There’s no point hoping they’ll add lots of rules enforcing things like weight ftp or whatever else until they fix all the broken stuff.

You know watch something like norcal cycling and you see what bike racing is - and it’s not zwift. It’s a terrifying thing where people are hurtling around a course cornering at high speeds next to each other. My advice would be sell your trainer and go and do that and I’m sure you’ll find the lightest guy or the guy with the highest w/kg won’t win because that’s not how real life works.

As for racing in zwift I said it years ago and I’ll repeat, you all want to kid yourselves you’re the winner when you’re not - and you want zwift to achieve this buy adding categories or this or that option that removes all the people who are faster than you.

Why not just save zwift’s already struggling team the effort and just run around your bedrooms cheering “I WON! I WON!”?

1 Like

Abusers of sprint coasting / sticky watts seem more prevalent if you ask me - last 3 races I have done (with not huge fields) has definitely had 2 or 3 of them.

Have you tried reporting those riders to whoever manages the event? In events my club manages we respond by looking at their power and disqualifying if appropriate. We do not proactively DQ riders since we don’t have tools to surface that behavior automatically (some event managers do). Some of those riders are unaware that they are taking advantage so we generally take a no-judgement approach about their intent.

Have flagged some in game (as well as gently called them out). Keep forgetting to use the email reporting process after the races, although I should. It does feel a tad scummy tbf.

zwift should be able to detect it rather than having to report people

1 Like

Sadly it seems Zwift makes token gestures in relation to fair racing. I’ve reported several individuals, and I’m not talking about borderline instances, one was as high as 25.6wkg over 30 seconds, still in the same category etc and zero action.
Now from what I understand the percentage of people who race on Zwift compared to other platform users is small, but it strikes me as good PR and business sense that fair racing is reasonably low-hanging fruit to encourage people to take up the platform/continue use, especially with the development of other platforms who are slowly getting their act together.
I know of several people who don’t use Zwift for this reason including my son who did a few races on a trial of Zwift, realised the level of cheating and is using a different platform now.
As the squeeze on revenues and profits becomes more and more apparent, I have no doubt there will be more tears at bedtime with Zwift staff and even a small uptick/drop in revenue can make a huge difference. Personally, I would bring back the cone of shame for all categorized events as well.

2 Likes