Nope, but I’m in the camp who doesn’t care what a map looks like after a ride. IRL, I choose a map/route before the ride, and can’t say I ever look at the map after a ride as part of the ride review.
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It is not only what the map look like but it will break all 3rd party analysis of the ride.
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any differently than IRL ride if you pause your Garmin and restart it 5 miles down the road again (which I’ve done because I forgot to hit the start button again)?
Why would it have to have you stationary while paused? Why couldn’t it have you follow the pace bot (like pedal assist at the beginning of a ride).
I think you’re on to something! Rider hits the pause button, which starts a countdown timer (e.g., 5 minutes). During this time, their avatar continues to follow the pace bot but is putting out zero watts. If the rider doesn’t get back on before the timer ends, their avatar stops and is no longer following the pacer bot.
Sure, this would result in a “free” mile or two, but haven’t we all hopped off the trainer while our avatar descended the Alpe?
I think that would only work if you restricted it to one use per ride or once per a certain time period otherwise people would definitely just use it top level up
Yes, I agree!
Not sure about that. When initially joining a PP and given the free 1 minute of pedal assist, no distance is logged at all. Isn’t this suggestion that pedal assist would be reengaged for some period of time (the hypothetical 5 minutes).
I think they were suggesting that the distance travelled was still counted to avoid the data recording/maps issue. I could be wrong
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Yes - I think so too… people seem to be saying that they want ‘one continuous ride’ to ‘analyse the data’ as it’s really important to them, but then not acknowledging the fact that teleporting someone mid ride is going to mess up the data they ‘really want to analyse’. All the ideas so far mean some part of the data is ‘not right’. Teleport? Distance you’ve actually ridden is wrong. Pause the ride data logging? Recovery time not recorded. etc.
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It’s indoors, the distance you have actually ridden is approximately zero no matter what. Power is a metric worth analyzing, and of course it will be zero during the pause.
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And for whatever reason, people like to argue against features that, as mentioned previously, you would not be forced to use. Of course you could still opt to:
- End and Save ride as normal. Start a new PP ride when you’re back
- Stop pedaling and sit on the side of the road until you’re back from your break
- Never stop pedaling and never take a break
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Why does anyone care if someone else has to go pee?
And why does how the ride will look on Strava matter?
Have Zwift not record distance during the break.
No different than pausing a workout.
Remember, people regularly power ups.
The burrito?
Anvil?
Feather?
Those are OK?
Really?
Again,
Why does anyone care if someone else has to go pee?
I think a potential solution might be that, when a rider stays with a RP long enough to get to the 2.5x drops multiplier, they are awarded a “PPPU” (pee pee power up). The icon would be a port-a-potty, and thus PPPU would replace any other PU you might have at the time.
This PPPU allows the rider to be ‘sucked along’ with the RP peloton for some amount of time (2 minutes? 5 minutes? Randomized from 2 to 5 minutes, in 1-minute increments?), just like the pedal assist when first joining the RP. When the time is up, if you’re not back on the bike and pedaling your avatar just coasts to a stop. During this time there would be no power recorded (as though you are coasting on a descent), but distance would continue to increment (again, as it would while coasting down a descent).
You don’t have to use the PPPU immediately, but you won’t get any other PUs until it is used or binned. And if you use it your drops multiplier goes back to 1.0, and you then get another PPPU when you get back to 2.5. If you bin the PPPU you never get another for the remainder of the ride, if you stay with the RP. Though you could always ‘lose contact’ with the RP, and then rejoin, or join another, and build back up to 2.5, when a PPPU would be awarded. (Of course, once you lose contact with the RP the multiplier is no longer an issue, and you could stop and relieve yourself whenever you want.)
Thoughts?
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Wow @Nigel_Tufnel 
You really thought about this one and it does seem like a nice idea. I would just say you only get one PPPU per ride getting one for every time you get to 2.5x seem to often.
I have to say that I don’t really do any RP rides, so I wasn’t clear how long it takes to get from level to level. Looking at ZI now, though, it appears that each level is only 5 minutes long, so it would only take 30 minutes to get to the 2.5x multiplier, which does seem a bit too quick. I still think there should be some milestone to get the PPPU, though, whether it just be after and hour, or 90 minutes, or maybe just added to the mix of regular PUs. Personally, I would love to see a PU like this added to any group ride (but not race) over, say, 40 miles/64k.
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Your idea is very well thought out. It will take a bit of programming but not impossible.
It could even motivate people to ride longer, instead of quitting after an hour for a PP stop they can use the PPPU and get back on.
Why does anyone think that those trying to elicit more information about this suggestion think it’s anything about people caring when people pee? Everyone pees. I can’t speak for others but I’m trying to figure out if this suggestion would generate more support requests and forum posts from confused users as a downside, than it would create a benefit for a few users that fit into the conjunction of categories of ‘needing to pee’, ‘not caring about their data’ and ‘really caring about a ride showing as 1 continuous ride rather than two separate ones’…
People can always just leave the pace partner group. Save ride and join again. I’ve done that. It just means on strava they don’t get a 100km ride, but two 50km rides or maybe 3 lots of 33 and a bit.
So I don’t think a special power up is needed.
How would such a break/pause be handled by strava? If it could be then that would be great.
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And if you get a 5 min. free ride, I think it would be used on the climbs to get a rest. Very usefull on hilly rides.
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