You can always do TTT practice as a meetup instead. You still get the authentic DIY countdown experience as well…
You’ve mentioned you need a fresh login - does that mean that there will be a mix of pack dynamics for a while until everyone has logged in fresh?
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During our closed testing sessions, there were comments that PD 3.0 does impact how much (or little) pedaling effort is needed to maintain position within the draft of a pack, as it does IRL.
I’m getting confirmation if PD 3.0 is in effect in a Meetup. This might be the most straightforward way to get some quality TTT practice time. Stand by for the answer, please.
UPDATE: Yes, all players in London will use PD 3.0, including in Meetups Here’s how you create Meetups
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@gloscherrybomb
It is possible if someone is in the habit of never exiting the Zwift app on their computer of choice.
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Ah OK, just an exit and restart - great. I thought maybe you had to do a full logout/login.
We might be splitting hairs in terminology here, but “full logout / login” of the Zwift app is what we advise players to do.
If you really want to be 100% sure, a power off and reboot of said computer wouldn’t hurt
Can’t wait to try it!
OK this is probably a bit nuanced, but I was following some riders to check it out on my phone (android). All seemed good. Flicked across to Facebook for a bit. When I went back to Zwift, I got this:
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Isn’t that just normal rush-hour traffic in London? 
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Just live-streamed a group ride in London. Looked pretty good to me: Pack Dynamics 3.0 Live in London - See them in Action | We're riding along with the ZER Keeping It EZ-er group ride so you can see Zwift's new Pack Dynamics 3.0 in action. They've just been taken live in the... | By Zwift Insider | Facebook
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Looks very smooth!
Just did a pretty quick group ride with a few sprints(Kinetic Group Ride). Better quality version is still processing: Zwift Pack Dynamics 3.0 - YouTube. PD3 are looking great to me so far!
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Just did a grp ride.
No real difference to the test rides (smooth as, easy to get through the pack, no washing machine effect).
Since we were going a bit quicker with a few sprints, got a chance to validate a few areas I was really interested in: the ability to drop off the back and rejoin seems well sorted now. Not super easy but not a near impossible mission. Going from back of pack to front was, as above, straight forward and no stickiness. Sprinting from the back was as normal as my sprints get. We had a few heavy hitters in the ride so pace was fast so lots to draft.
Draft was good and noticeble in that it was easy than I thought to moderate speed to save a few watts.
I thought I had some graphics glitches at the start but my OBS recording was playing up so video wise, smooth as (still needed to run it in background per Dave’s recommendations).
Before I joined the ride, I was cruising around London and saw a workout rider on other side of riding coming toward me do a radical slalom as if they were in a dog obedience trial, and also saw someone at the start of that ride carrying the trainer on the back, but nothing else.
Reckon the racing is going to really good so need my legs to recover and find a race with enough riders to test out.
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I set everything up to test this with the Rizer… “Steering has been disabled in this event…”
Less than optimal choice of group ride, I guess.
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Saw you in it but didnt click it was you!
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That would be me! Guess I just need to sprint 1 hundredth of a second faster 
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Backgrounding the Zwift app on Android to use another app, then coming back to fanview Zwift is the sequence to get this? We’ll try to repro this, but at this point, we’re not sure that it has anything to do with PD 3.0.
I’d be curious to see if you can repro this in another (non PD 3.0) world using the same steps?
There were 416 Zwifters in London this evening so I’ll wait for the DIRT Sprintapalooza in the morning to evaluate 3.0. I am truly looking forward to it…
I did the same ride as Dean and Oliver. I agree with Dean’s assessment on how it felt to ride. Real nice. Even did my fastest London sprint by a smidge, so speed seems similar as well if you get a nice draft the whole way from the group.
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I have enabled steering on the ZZRC Sub 2.0. AJ
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