If I look at the performance results of an M4 Pro and it runs an average of 114 FPS at High + 2160 4K Zwift, then there is a high probability that the M4 Pro will get the Ultra profile? What do you think? I am thinking of replacing my old MBP 2019 with an M4 MBP with M4 Pro.
@AlanZ please confirm this to me.
I would not make any purchasing decisions based on what should be possible on Zwift, or even what Zwift says it will do in the future. They are pretty indifferent to requests for graphic upgrades on macs and, worse, are completely non communicative about it.
Itās a great chip, but get it for other reasons.
Iām a Watopian. I would make a purchase decision based on a Zwift graphic profile. 
The normal M4 would be enough for my work. But if I could get an Ultra 4k profile with an M4 Pro, that would be awesome.
Even on my M2 I had already clouds of dust rendered on High profile almost like if thatās Ultra. All the rider shades are there too. Is there any other really noticeable difference between High on M2 or M4 and Ultra? From what I can see Ultra renders just a few more bushes on the sides of the roadā¦
My M4 Pro is locked by the TV at 60Fps and runs absolutely with no drops even in crowded races. M2 sometimes drops the frame rate.
My understanding is that the shadow and texture resolutions are shared between Medium and High. Ultra gets more. But personally I donāt notice. My eyes are not tuned for that sort of thing but a real gamer might be able to tell. Zwift is the only game for me and most of the time I use a system that gets Ultra profile (PC with GTX 970) but occasionally a 2021 M1 MacBook Pro. Plus I run 1440p.
Unfortunately youād be making it based on the possibility of a profile. Zwift as a company seems to want to treat all Macs the same and all iPads the same, which puts those of us with high end models left with a lot of unrealized potential.
Iām making the point that the difference between High and Ultra on M4 Pro end even M2 is negligible. M4 is just much smoother. Do you need that extra cacti on the side of the road in Tempus Fugit? I can already see and enjoy the Road Runner racing me but I donāt really care about extra rocks and trees on the sides.
I run both in 4k.
If this is a reply to me, I was replying to a different message
@Martin_Huchel Iāll look into this with our engineering team for you!
The only ones that are different are the intel macs with dedicated GPUs like mine with an RX6600XT or my other one with a Radeon Pro W6800X 32GB (which is paired with a W3275M Xeon 28 core)
It should be different, the M4 Pro should easily beat the RX6600XT and an old Xeon X5690
@AlanZ can we please get an update?
Stable 120 frames with an M4 Pro at a high profile and 4K resolution. Ultra should also be possible.
@AlanZ your paying customers have been asking if you intend to improve the graphical settings for the IPad M4. (After it was confirmed months ago it would be getting ultra settings). Any chance someone from Zwift can reply?
@Matteo_Orlando1 @Jonathan_White Iāve shared this consistent feedback about a better graphics experience and improved performance on MX-based iPads with our internal development teams, but canāt share a date for when these changes will come at this time. Iāll share more details as they become available.
A propos of nothing, these are the adjustable graphics settings on TrainingPeaks Virtual (formerly IndieVelo) for iPad. Runs very smooth at first blush.
Neat, good spot - a sight for sore eyes (literally)! Not that I condone the behaviour, but I feel like PC users review bomb Steam games for less than that; hopefully we see some improvement soon, but itās sounding like a wish for next winter at this point.
Worth noting, TP Virtual looks to be āfree through March 2025ā.
Merry Christmas to all, update on Ultra profile for Mac. I asked Eric on the group ride today when we will see this and as per the attached screenshot we can expect it by end of winter (USA) 2025.
If I remember he said something about rowing coming to Zwift, too.
Haha yes I do too. Fortunately this is way easier.
Thatās nice but Iāll believe it when I see it.
I use an old 6 core Xeon (3.46ghz) machine with an RX6600XT Radeon as the GPU. Itās quick enough for Zwift but a modern M4 Mac should be way better - if only for the lack of Ultra profile.
If it ever happens I might get an M4 mini or an M4 studio when that is released and retire the old machine and get back some space.
