Make Watopia Available Every Day


(John Naab (Team Somm Cycle)) #1

Can you allow Watopia to be an option to ride every day? I love Zwift and think the product is awesome! It is absolutely one of my favorite training programs. You have managed to do what I once thought was impossible, make riding inside for more than 2+ hours fun. 

I find myself getting frustrated with the course selection when London and Richmond are on the calendar. The course options aren’t nearly as immersive, nor offer the unique amount of course options that Watopia offers.

I’ve seen some posts asking for all of the routes to be open, but the developers have chosen to limit the selection due to their desire to promote the social experience over the value of training selection. 

I understand there is a fairly large user segment that enjoys using Zwift for its social components; however, that isn’t my first priority when I look at why I’m a member. We all have to juggle life, work, travel, racing, etc. and then hoping that all lines up with the course calendar can be frustrating if you miss it. Having to have to wait 4-5 days for London to be over when your training plan or desire is to do a long climb or an achievement ride is challenging.

Don’t get me wrong, I do enjoy the social component and it is super cool to ride with other people. It’s engaging to draft with a group or hold a wheel on a climb, but the reality of why I Zwift is that it is an amazing indoor training tool. I’m okay with only seeing a handful of people on the course if it meant that I was able to do the ride/workout that I wanted. Heck- you can even put up a disclaimer where you can ask people if they want a social experience in <world>  or if they are okay riding solo or not seeing a lot of people to move forward. The social aspect will always have people logging in regardless of the course because their priority/aim is to ride with a team/group/friends or to do a race. Your retention rates for those that prioritize being able to do the ride they want might improve if they had a second option. Having Watopia open daily and/or another course offered at times seems to be a happy medium to cover both user-bases.

The Richmond and London courses are great, but forcing people to do old content when you have better more immersive experiences seems counterintuitive. You put a lot of hard work and effort into a new patch but then limit the consumption. If a second option was available, you would be able to get direct imperial data and see where the users were choosing to log in and then give that feedback to the dev team for future content patches.  

I have read the forum posts about going into the program files and changing the <world>, but I don’t know if that is a violation of the ToS and quite frankly it seems a bit odd to have to edit a program file instead of offering multiple options. I appreciate the nostalgia that London and Richmond offer, but the romanticism dies swiftly after looking at the different course routes in comparison to Watopia.

This request isn’t meant to be negative whatsoever, just an honest albeit possibly small opinion about your awesome product. In fact, you’ve done so well with Watopia that it makes the other courses feel like a letdown, even though if they were on their own, they would be really cool. Thanks for listening and thank you for all your hard work.

Ride On.


(Paul Allen) #2

Well you can edit the World Tag and ride (no, it is not against TOS): Watopia everyday: https://zwiftinsider.com/world-tag/


(J. H. Edmund Lee) #3

Except when you can’t, like using AppleTV app.


(Clayton Bigsby) #4

I agree…mage Watopia always available by default and rotate London and Richmond :+1:


(Cary Sporinsky TeamZF ZHR(F)) #5

You’ll just get sick of Watopia.


(Clayton Bigsby) #6

…Maybe…:thinking:


(Ryan Reeves) #7

I’d have to agree on this one as well. 


(Clayton Bigsby) #8

Well…it is summer here now…so 95% of the time I’m outside…it would actually just be more convenient … it’s either a rainy day ride or really, mostly climbs…it’s pretty flat in these here parts so I can get my ADZ FIX…on occasion…


(Andre Hufschmid) #9

This is what i have asked several times. Why not let the people select the world they want to ride? I cannot understand why this is such a matter. I do not care if i am the only one in a world. And please stop posting update the World Tag, on an Apple TV its not an option. 


(Nic Haarhoff) #10

I agree.  Watopia is actually the reason I joined Zwift.  Frankly, Richmond days are just rest days.  Unfortunately when it’s raining or winter, and Richmond is the only option, I do it with a bitter taste in my mouth and drudge through wondering why I can’t choose a course.

I also don’t use a PC so the world tag thing is useless to me.


(Clayton Bigsby) #11

I’d have to agree with you Nic, Zwift should never have to be a drudgery…too many options becoming available and Zwift should try hard to circle the wagons and keep this community bond and lead out advantage on competition as strong as possible…

kinda like “You asked and We heard you”(…but I don’t doubt there are plenty of other dissenters)