Do you really think that this is a general problem for everybody?
On an update almost one month old?
And no one ever complained about it?
No!
It has to be a problem just with your setup.
That is the normal pattern for a Atom on Apple TV which is bluetooth
Ant+ allows you to toggle erg on & off - Bluetooth doesnt allow it.
Huh? Whyās that?
Daft how there are all these little annoying differences across platforms and devices, like the gear on some smart bikes only showing up via Bluetooth and not ANT+.
Sure, it has to be. 
Nothing changed on my side. Just the Zwift update and something is not behaving like it had before the update.
But sure, I obviosly must have changed something on my side ā¦ rolling eyes
And since itās the last update because May update hasnāt been released yet, then itās very reasonable to post it in the correspondent thread. And even if not everybody is affected, itās just a message to Zwift Team that something is not working as it should.
But why do I post it anyway, Zwift doesnāt listen.
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Interesting. For the Kickr18 it used to work no matter if ANT+ or Bluetooth is used. Iāll check on the weekend, because Iāve a workout planned which should automatically switch between ERG and Freeride. Weāll see then.
Because, Zwiftā¦ I honestly have no idea, tried to get support to review it and it was simply a waste of time. Actually in their defence they wanted me to jump through so many hoops to have first line support I gave up on it.
It didnt used to be like that, it was included as part of an update months\years ago and now thats the way it is.
There is minor workarounds but its not particularly easy.
On the wattbike hub you can toggle erg on & off at a click of a button, its really intuitive but that functionality never made it to Zwift.
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@Mike_Medwed
Shuji at Zwift HQ here. Weāre listening.
Curious - have you been able to reproduce this more than the one time? Especially after a reboot of the computer / fresh login to Zwift?
@shooj Thank you for your message. Please bear my last post, I was a bit frustrated.
Yes, Iām able to reproduce it every time when a ERG workout finishes. My workout today was done after a fresh reboot of windows, but behaviour was the same. I finished the workout and stopped pedaling to take a screenshot of the workout progress. After that, I started to pedal again. Normally, ERG mode would have been turned off by now so that I just freeride. Now itās stuck to the last value of my workout and no matter what I do, like change gears or pedal faster/slower, it sticks to that value.
Windows 10 Laptop using Bluetooth to connect my Wahoo Kickr18. Zwift App 1.24.2. New Homescreen: Starting workout like this:
Click on the workout icon upper left, select my workout and then I choose a world and then a route. Then I click on Start Workout.
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Iāve had similar using Apple TV and a kickr connected via Bluetooth
Never a constant though, but often enough to notice it.
Have you guys read about CodeMasters? Check out Dirt 5! That is what Zootopia needs to look like, with a console able to drive the device in 4K at the right price point. The visuals of Dirt 5 are not only fantastic, the arcade play is fantastic. I think of my TacX trainer and the reason to purchase a treadmill, as investing in the ācontrollerā. It is the in game experience that matters. With hundreds of millions of potential customers, I think it is a classic mistake for Zwift to focus only on hardcore roadies. My son dropped my on a climb up Highway 9 in a Trek Aluminum Fitness Bike and I was riding a Carbon Fiber Emonda, why, because he is 14 years old. We finished, got home, and went back to Minecraft. He was blabbing something in the car, he beat his personal record for the mile, something like 6 minutes. I was thinking, all the training in the world is not going to get me to beat him on the 6 minute mile, it is not going to happen, and then I realized, his approach to Minecraft is worthy of study. If you guys in programming took just a few minutes a day to hang out on the High Pixel Server, you would be floored at one these kids can do with a cross platform. Seriously, the reason Minecraft is so highly valued, you have kids between 9 and 15 literally screaming at each other on Discord, playing Minecraft, and nobody in the house can get any rest. Thatās not about right or wrong, it is about Minecraft being this unstoppable machine, that did everything right in cross platform over time.
The problem being how much extra resource will it take to develop two versions of the game then try get them to be compatible. We all want better graphics but iām guessing 70% of users are running zwift on something that probably does not have a dedicated graphics card (tablets, phones, ipads, ATV etc)
Certainly something to think about but iād been far keener to see feature development over graphics if there is a resource call to be made.
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I think there are a number of challenges in improving graphics, and Zwift did a great job in choices. First off, you want to absolutely avoid the uncanny valley. This was a computer science problem in CGI that can absolutely dog a render. Just watch Valerian, that movie ran into the uncanny valley. Same with the Garmin Tacx cycle app, any app where you are cycling against a video, problem is the uncanny valley. RGT also has an uncanny valley problem, try it. The city render is pretty good, not perfect, but the other renders are poor, because the render engine looks very early 2000ās, and without constantly changing side imagery, the eye gets bored, and you get tired of looking at the screen. I think many games look fantastic on last generation I-pads because they balance 3D effects and 2D effects, by creating a 2D+ environment, which is what Nintendoās Links Awakening did, just a really pretty game. I think we will see over time users what more content, it is an inevitable trend, no different than Star Wars, Star Trek, Grand Theft Auto, etc, etc, Marvel Universe. Even in biking, unless you bike the worlds most gorgeous route in California, and even then, more content is always appreciated.
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