FTP booster + regular weekend rides


(Edward Siahaan) #1

Hi All,
I was wondering if anyone would have insight into combining regular outdoor rides on top of the 4wk FTP booster. I usually do 50 - 70 mile rides on a Saturday with a decent amount of climbing (4K-6K feet). My 2 concerns are:

  1. Overtraining
  2. Reducing the benefits of the training plan if I integrate regular outdoor rides and stretched out the plan beyond the 4 weeks to allow for recovery after Long outdoor rides.

Feedback would be much appreciated. Thanks.


(V ROOM) #2

 

You can make it work. Though you’re mixing two ideas together. The concept behind the 4 week booster is to accumulate enough high intensity work over the week to pull your FTP up. Your long outdoor ride will wreck your legs and you’ll struggle to meet the necessary intensity on the 4 week programme. Could end up spiralling into a mess. Don’t underestimate those short workouts they do get tough in the last two weeks. Though, you can make it work, but you’ll likely just end up doing long weekend rides and a couple of interval workouts during the week and it’s not really that focused.  Ultimately - better ways to spend your hours if FTP is your main goal.

 

The 4wk FTP booster is a bit of a hit or miss. I’ve done it and so have a few other people I know in real life, as well as the missus. I got a 5 watt boost on it. The worst I’ve ever gotten from 4 weeks of training on any FTP programme! Some guys scored worse on their 4 week test at the end of it. The missus had a 3 watt FTP boost. Again, her worst ever improvement for 4 weeks of FTP training. Really strange.

I think the 4 week programme needs a bit of work, including a better taper to the week  4 week FTP test itself. I’m thinking people who didn’t do well from it were fatigued when re-testting. I actually waited myself to get some freshness back before testing again. Still didn’t help me much. Anyway, if Zwift could pass on all the results to the coach who designed it and let him rework it a bit then that would be brilliant as I do love the idea of a high intensity 4 week FTP booster. 

Not to put you off it though, I’ve seen a guy on here say he had massive results on it, though it was something like a 30% FTP boost. Think a lot of people didn’t really take him seriously, but still, I’m sure lots of people did have excellent results. The coach has a strong background, I wouldn’t dismiss his plan based on a small sample of people I know. Zwift has the data, rest of us only have anecdotes.

 

Personally, I have to unsub from Zwift for the winter. I was hoping they’d get some TrainerRoad-like ‘Sweet Spot Base’ programmes in by now, but time’s up, so back to TR for now. Zwift has nothing that can even remotely compete with that if you really are serious about boosting FTP. 

Fingers crossed for next winter though!

 

 


(Terry Wilson) #3

Im a mountain biker and ride 3 days a week outside on mountain bike trails on top of doing the 4 week FTP booster, my outdoor rides are 2 x 30km rides and then a long 100 km ride on the weekend, I do the FTP work out in the morning before work and the mountain bike in the afternoon ( after work ), on my weekend bike ride i skip out the FTP workout , I did this for the last month and increased my FTP by 24% , you just have to make sure that you know how far you can push yourself and have rest days when you need them, fitting it all in is a bit of squeeze but it can be done. I find the FTP workout to be quite good but have read mixed results on these forums