I am fairly new to Zwift & Zwift Power and have just completed the long ride on stage 3 of Tour du Zwift. My question is, I am a C category rider and the ride is open to A B & C riders. Now the results are on Zwift Power it shows A riders with their times, which obviously should be the fastest but when you go down to the B & C riders their timings are even quicker which can’t be correct. It’s like the B & C riders were in a different event. Can someone enlighten me? Thanks
The TdZ group rides are organized by distance. There are no guidelines around who joins the A/B/C events that aren’t races. A is longest, B is middle distance, C is shortest. That’s why riders in the B/C finish sooner than A. But the C event will include some of the fastest and strongest riders on Zwift, who are not in the C pace group. That’s because it’s not a race, everyone picks whichever route they want to do regardless of their power.
If you want to do a TDZ race, join the official TDZ races at 10 minutes past the hour!
TDZ rides are categorised by distance, A longest, C shortest.
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Thanks for your reply Paul but I’m not sure that is correct. I understand there are 3 different length mileage courses for each stage plus a race but I am referring to just the long course in stage 3 which everyone can enter. As we all start and finish the same event surely it’s the same distance for everyone who enters? So why is it that when the statistics are shown on Zwift Power the B & C have faster times than the A’s? For example the fastest time for A’s was 1 hour but the fastest time for B’s was 46.06 and over 100 riders in B were under 1 hour….cant be right unless I am reading it incorrectly. The fastest time in C’s was 32.09!!
The A, B and C that you’re seeing in the ZP results are the different courses (the pens that were originally entered), not the pace category of the riders. That’s why the Bs finish more quickly than the As, and why the Cs are quickest of all - because they’re on shorter routes.
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So when I go to Zwift Power and look at the statistics of Stage 3 - Innsbruck KOM After Party - Tour de Zwift - 4.00pm Innsbruckring - 1 lap 37kms. You are saying that results from shorter events are also on this list? It doesn’t mentioned it.
Ok let me say this, I am attempting to do all the events on each stage of the TdZ and if I enter event “A” long distance in any stage, that is for category A riders? If so doesn’t it differentiate which riders are A B & C within that particular event? I thought that’s what it did. In the Innsbruck event above, there was around 500 entries at the start line but in category A finishers there was only 301, what happened to the rest? I assumed the B & C riders followed on from the category A’s with each category’s results and stats.
Yes, exactly. Zwiftpower doesn’t handle being able to tell you which route each pen did if those weren’t all the same.
I did the B route the other day myself for TdZ. I’m a D rider. So my results show up in the Bs even though I rode the Yorkshire Double Loop route and the results say they’re for the Innsbruck KOM After Party.
No and no. The “A” long distance route is for any rider - A, B, C or D. And so is the B medium route. And so is the C short route. So the results shown for A in ZP include all the riders who did that route and it doesn’t show you if they’re A/B/C or D riders.
Just pick which length/difficulty route you want to do and enter the pen corresponding to that route, ignoring what your own pace category may be.
In your example where 199 riders are “missing”, those riders aren’t registered with Zwiftpower. Only riders registered with ZP show up in the ZP results.
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Thanks Steve that explains a lot, I think I am being confused with the events A B & C and categories A B C & D. Also I wasn’t aware that not all finishers would be on Zwift Power but just those registered.
Thanks again, very helpful.
All of this is quite confusing if you’re new to Zwift (or just new to events such as Tour de Zwift), and plenty of people have been perplexed by this before.
The start pens should really be numbered or have some other designation than the same ones as the pace categories. But they’re like that for historical reasons and I doubt that’ll change anytime soon, though we can hope.
Pace categories have been somewhat superseded by the numeric Zwift Racing Score, but Zwiftpower still has these categories (and so do the Robopacers, amongst other features) so unless Zwiftpower also has a major revamp (again, don’t hold your breath on that) we’ll still be likely to have the confusion of A-D pace categories vs A-D start pens for some time.
Hi Steve….as you seem to be a bit of an expert on all things Zwift can you answer another couple of questions for me.
Firstly 3 of us did Stage 4, London 8 of the TdZ but all at different start times. When you see the statistics etc on Companion I appear to have done 1 mile further than my two friends, why would that be? We all start and finish at the same place. Also my time is almost 6 minutes more than the figure that appeared at the end of the event.
When I go on Zwift Power my time is showing more like the correct time….any ideas?
Thanks
Gary
It sounds like you continued riding at the end for a mile, and your friends exited the event so didn’t do any extra mileage.
So once you have crossed the finish line and it comes up saying that you have completed the course, if you carry on doing a slow recovery ride that is taken as part of your distance & time? I assumed once you crossed the line that’s it.
When you finish the event. It will usually take a picture of your event time. You can ride as long as you want. When you save your ride, it will show total time Zwifting as well as distance. You have to go to the picture, if you are trying to compare event times. I hope that makes sense. Cheers @Gary_Stamper
this will include any cool down time after the event finishes
this will show the time in the event and ends at the finish line, this is where you would want to compare your time to your friends, or look at strava segments.
Great thanks for that
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