Equipment questions

Hi fellow Zwifters,

I have a question, and I think this forum is the right place to ask it.

For the past three years, I’ve been using a spin bike with magnetic resistance along with Favero Assioma Duo pedals for cadence and watt measurement. However, the bike isn’t great—I can’t stand while riding, and there’s a limit to how much resistance I can apply. I can max out at around 500-600 watts, but then my cadence goes wild. So, I’m planning to upgrade within the next 3-6 months.

Here’s my question: Should I get a new spin bike and continue using my pedals, or should I invest in a smart bike like the one from Zwift (or consider other options)?

The new bike seems interesting, but I’m concerned that it only connects to Zwift. I’d like the flexibility to switch between different apps. Since the bike is new, I’m also worried about potential bugs. Additionally, the crank is 170 mm, which is 2.5 mm shorter than what I currently use, and I’m concerned that might be an issue.

However, it seems like “professionals” prefer smart bikes, so there must be some advantages I don’t know about… Plus, it’s relatively affordable. It would be interesting to know if there are any alternatives coming up soon.

If I go for a spin bike, a sports shop recommended one with a big flywheel and belt, but I’ve noticed that more bikes are using magnetic resistance lately. Is that the future?

Any thoughts and experiences would be greatly appreciated.

Something like a Kickr Bike is very good in that you can really adjust the fit a lot, try different crank lengths and have it permanently in place.

Other than that it is very quiet.

They are probably trying to sell you on a particular type they sell.

A proper smart bike gives a way better experience and more realism. The resistance changes when the gradient changes in Zwift.

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Spin bike is the worst option if what you want is an experience like riding a bicycle (simulation mode) or if you want to do structured workouts in ERG mode.

Belt drive smart bikes are great, and quiet compared to anything with a chain, plus they’re very low maintenance. The downsides are high up-front cost and dependency on the manufacturer for repair parts. Service work on them differs from bicycles and it’s more difficult to find people qualified to repair them.

A bicycle on a direct drive smart trainer is also a good option if you don’t require the adjustability of a smart bike. Cost is low and it works with all apps. The bike or trainer can be replaced independently if needed. Repair or modification of the bike is easy because it’s just a bicycle and can be serviced at home or at any bike shop using widely-available parts.

Going from 172.5mm to 170mm cranks won’t be a problem. Most people won’t be able to tell the difference in a blind test. Going shorter is generally safe in terms of fit and body mechanics.

You may check this out: Elite's New Square Smart Frame, Avanti & Justo 2 Smart Trainers First Look! as it offers 172.5mm crank length and a belt drive

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A smart trainer or smart bike will give a much better experience than any spin bike (spin bikes include the Peloton) as they adjust the resistance per the app’s road profile. Any Smart trainer/bike will work with all the apps (Zwift/Rouvy/FulGaz/Whoosh/ and others whose names escape me).

DO. NOT. EVEN. CONSIDER. SPIN. BIKE. Unless of course, cost is prohibitive. Spin bikes can be had for nothing on the used market and your pedals should work fine.

You may check this out: [Elite’s New Square Smart Frame, Avanti & Justo 2 Smart Trainers First Look! ]

Thank you, I wasn’t aware of this. However, it does seem costly. I’m uncertain if one can purchase the frame from Elite or Zwift and attach it to a different smart trainer. It might require technical skills that I lack.

Any Smart trainer/bike will work with all the apps (Zwift/Rouvy/FulGaz/Whoosh/ and others whose names escape me).

Except the one from Zwift…

I would not consider the Zwift collection of parts to be a Smart System. In some ways it is worse than a Spin Bike.

:thinking: Can you please explain that?

My understanding is the shifter thingys only work on Zwift…proprietary. The Core can be used elsewhere but have to get a cassette. Oh…and a bike. The Zwift frame can be used as single-speed on other apps I suppose.

At least with a spin bike and power pedals can be used elsewhere.

Personally I think the Elite Square is much more interesting.

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