Direct connection to Elite Rizer for up/down movement

Hey Gordon, could you help me finding the right size(s) for what I need? I have my race and my tri bike with a standard quick release but also want to start using my MTB (148x12) on my Neo using the Rizer. I’ll order for both then simultaneously.

Thanks a lot for your support and guidance on this.

Hi, I have just got the same set up, neo 2t and elite rizer. Could you please share the size/part number used for the bearings/washers? I’m using a synapse alloy frame with rim brakes, it was cheap and fits me.

Is it 5mm ID and 21mm OD?

Any that do not require machining? Would a needle bearing work?

2 washers each side of the drop outs with grease?

Hope they get the direct link to Zwift for the rizer if that helps :slight_smile:

Sorry, could not see a way to directly message.

Trying these out, I’ll keep you posted.

Still no news from Zwift about direct support for the Elite Rizer, seems we are being ignored here…

What do you mean direct support?

Zwift does not directly send information to my Elite Rizer. There is no support for it.
So, the Elite Rizer needs to get this info from either an Elite trainer or in ‘simulation/calculation’ mode by connecting to a Trainer (like my Tacx NEO), then read the speed and power and use that together with my weight to ‘guestimate’ if it needs to rise (as I must be going uphill) or lower (if I go downhill).

I’m still none the wiser as to why you would be using a Rizer without a trainer?

Ok, let me explain this again:
Zwift on my laptop
My bike on my Tacx NEO and Elite Rizer.
Now I want Zwift to send the info about inclination (gradient) to both my Tac NEO and my Elite Rizer
It does not do that

So what you are saying is that the Elite Rizer isn’t working?

I have the exact same setup and it works great. The Rizer steering is detected at the pairing screen.

Zwift pairs with the steering function of the Elite Rizer
But it does NOT send the gradient information directly to the Elite Rizer

No i agree this is done via the Neo which is how the Rizer is designed.
It’s not a standalone device so not really a Zwift issue.

Why would you want to have it so?

The Elite Rizer is DESIGNED to work around the shortcomings of Zwift.
When paired with an Elite trainer, it will get the exact gradient info and move up/down.
When NOT paired with an Elite trainer but something else, like a Tacx NEO, it will read the speed and power and will GUESTIMATE if you are going up or down.
This will be my last try in explaining it to you.
Hopefully someone from Zwift reads along here and makes a code modification that allows us to ‘really’ use the Elite Rizer without having to resort to also buying an Eltite trainer as well

I have to admit I’m totally lost.

I use mine with a Neo and to the best of my knowledge Zwift sends the gradient details to the Neo which passes it onto the Rizer. I don’t think anything is guestimated.

Gradient data is transmitted by Zwift which can be read and implemented.

This is how you can get Zwift to control the incline in your treadmill for example.

Maybe I’m being too simplistic and just don’t understand the actual scenario you are referring to.

You are spot-on Stuart. The Rizer is designed to pickup an ANT+ signal direct from a trainer (it could well be BLE supported by now too but when I first played with it on my Kickr, it was ANT+). And it is exact gradient that the Rizer gets, not estimated (how could that even work based on speed/power?!?!).

Coincidently I gave my Rizer to a mate who uses it with a Neo and he is fine and my back doesnt suffer any more :slight_smile:


Thanks for that. Thought i was missing something.

I have tested mine to see if the movement of the Rizer in Zwift matches that of the Rizer app and it does so I’m confident all is accurate.

@B_I.G.Floor_NEO I did a bit of a google search to see if others were having similar issues to you but couldn’t find anything relevant. This may be a dumb question but you actually paired it with your trainer, right?

Both gp lama and dc rainmaker state in their review that if rizer is paired with other trziner then eltite, gradient is ESTIMATED.

From the reviews…

A) Does it support the ANT+ FE-C specification: This is common on virtually every trainer you could have bought for the last number of years, and is used behind the scenes (even when using Bluetooth) to monitor what the trainer is being told gradient-wise, and then mirror it.


Elite says that other trainers could add the gradient to their data stream, which they’ll be making available, to make that just as clean/responsive as the Elite trainers.

So I’m working on the basis that of the trainer is being told the gradient and the Rizer mirrors it then it’s going to be pretty accurate.

Secondly the OP is laying the issue at Zwifts door when actually according to the above it’s actually a Garmin/Tacx issue.

Either way I’ve no qualms about the accuracy of the Rizer and I’m still bemused as to what the OP actually is missing out on.

Your right on point 2 that it’s not a zwift issue, but a tacx/wahoo issue

Point A that you point at (I see it’s from rainmaker) only point to elite trainer.

If you read further on you see:
The incline pieces though while roughly following the terrain with the KICKR V5 weren’t as exact, which Elite says is because they have to calculate the gradient based on the speed broadcast from the trainer (and your weight). It largely works.

But as you stated, not a zwift issue. :wink:

I have no rizer so no clues how it works irl, ut following this because of interest.


I deliberated before purchasing.

In terms of functionality it works great and does exactly what its supposed to do.

You tend to not notice the lesser gradients too much and even when it reaches double digits you don’t actually think your elevated.
Only when you look how high the front end is when you look from the side do you realise.

No regrets purchase for me and don’t forget with the steering you can save a handful of seconds up the Alpe.