Did organizers stop making new races?

Looking at the schedule. The number of races running looks really disappointing at night for US. It’s only ZHQ races during certain hours.

Zwift should do something to promote racing. It’s dying a slow death.

This is especially stupid if your score is above 700. You have nothing to race in during those 4 hours.

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Zwift killed all the race 6pm-9pm PST time zone. EVR race need to come monday-wed maybe friday ones. @stuart_lynne

Preach. I am in that mid-low 700 layer of hell.

This issue has recently gotten worse as just this week there haven’t been any of the evening KISS Racing events scheduled for TUES and THURS. I am not even sure why this is the case as it often had a great turnout, especially when it wasn’t competing with any of the events or ZRL. The mass start was also nice as I and a few of the other As always had the B group to fall back to once we got dropped by the pros. If this is because KISS is no longer scheduling these events, this could be a hole ZWIFT could fill?

I am not even interested in the ZHQ advanced races as they are often too short so I’ve been resorting to just doing intervals instead.

I am really not happy with the current state of the evening race schedule and I can only imagine how much worse it is on the west coast.

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At this point in time Zwift has removed all (most) events that don’t get at least 30 people on average.

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And there are still way too much events. Certainly on prime time Europe.

From 19:00 to 20:00 CEST there are 54 events.

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Probably 50 events exactly the same and one or 2 outliers.

No thought or curation in the calendar at all.

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They need more variation. Same race during those 4 hours blocks 7 times a week gets dull. Imagine doing The Classic lap 28 times. Dfiferent type of cycling pain.

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Variation is really needed. Mass start, chase race, hill race, something different everyday. Even a random mystery race that is going to be 30-50 min long that you don’t know till it starts would be refreshing!

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EVR races were specifically targeted to longer distances as a mass start. Trying to provide that as an alternative to the shorter races.

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Sounds like a recipe for low participation

The thing I observe gets more attention is short series with a GC

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I don’t think the GC means anything. Last month’s ZRS had “over 60,000” starters according to a recent post about the February series on ZwiftInsider.

On ZwiftPower the number was 35,563 (I guess the other 25,000 weren’t registered on ZP). Of those 35,563 only around 14,000 did 2 or more stages with only 3,049 completing all 5 stages.

Getting less than 10% of participants to complete all 5 stages in a month is not a great retention rate. I wonder how it compares to people doing the Tour de Zwift at the moment.

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What works for ZRacing has little to do with promoting a community event series aside from not making the races too long or climby.

GC is broken now. Before you get to race in your category. Now everyone is E. The C rider really don’t care if the A guy can beat his time by half an hour.

FWIW I am finding that some of the best attended (even in high score ones)and well-run community organized racing does not appear on the Zwift public calendar. Many are private events where you have to register to get a “race pass.” And while this does create a slight barrier for entry and forward planning, I found that the events are well attended, well run and have consistent following. These events are put on by several different clubs and organizations, and I’m sure folks will help hop in with recommendations if you indicate your interested in that.

PS Many of them use Zwift Racing App scores rather than ZRS. So that may also appeal to you.

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