Changes to Zwift Subscription Renewals [May 2024]

Erg on iV is really nice. Much smoother transitions between intervals. Plus has anti spiral of doom feature.

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9 posts were merged into an existing topic: Easier going uphill in ERG mode,harder downhill

And Scotland wasn’t worth writing home about, completed all the routes in a couple of sessions

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Scotland was one of the better worlds recently. certainly from a racing perspective. Probably one of the very few things to improve racing in the last few years

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This really is tedious (note the dates):

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So which to believe? I have no idea :slightly_frowning_face:

Yep, City And Sgurr is a decent rolling race course, albeit short repetitive lap. Plus the uphill drag finish to (Rolling Highlands?) to name a couple.

Zwift is probably the most complete product and probably the most polished product out there. It is also the most accessible, just about every device can run it.

The problem is although it is the ‘best’ thing for most people it’s overkill for many. Lots of unused features.
The value just isn’t there for many, zwift would do well to offer tiers.

I’ll just look to a cheaper/free.platform that cover off my basics. Yeah it won’t be as good but it’ll be good enough

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I am out. I love mywhoosh so far

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I don’t consider that a group ride. I realize there’s a big group, but it’s completely unlike a group ride with a leader, where you see a regular cast of characters if you do it frequently, you are recognized by other regulars, you enjoy the chat (if you like chat - I know many do not). Riding with the pacers is also completely unlike a Tour of Watopia type event where 500 people set off and magically settle into a group at their pace to complete a route. I enjoy both of those things. I don’t like robots so I almost never ride with pace partners, but this is just my silly preference. Group rides and big tours are part of the value I get. I also like Zwift racing because I prefer not to race against robots on the smaller platforms. I have plenty of critiques about how Zwift racing works but generating a reasonable field of humans is one of the benefits and it’s not a small one, to me.

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I wasn’t going to start a new subscription until my Zwift subscription expired next week, however, I got tempted with a free trial code & also wanted to see what my indoor riding was going to be like soon.

Only a short time in, but very happy with the other platform I am trying. There were other riders on the course I selected & because it is a real-life route, there’s constant small gradient changes, meaning lots more gear changes (just like riding outside). Everything synced to Garmin and Strava just fine & I’m itching to now cycle lots of places all over the world.

If Zwift had kept things the same, I’d not have gone through the (minor) hassle of switching subscriptions over to another platform. As things have turned out though, I’m looking forward to my next trainer session & I’ll actually end up spending less, which I can put towards a new chain.

Erg mode doesn’t work for me on MyWhoosh - but I’m using a wattbike Atom so may be different for other users. I still get a workout though, just do it manually!

My web subscription information is the same as yours - £12.99 vs. £17.99
I decided to make it a moot point as to which is valid by cancelling. Clearer communication & I might have stuck around for another month. At this point, their loss.

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I’ve contacted support and confirmed it is a display issue which will be fixed in “several business days”.

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The nice thing about the MyWhoosh FB page, is if you have a problem/not sure about how something works, then MyWhoosh will answer/explain in a timely manner

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You are very much like me in terms of the features you use. Exclusively solo or group rides; nothing else. When the last increase came around I did contact Zwift to suggest perhaps a “basic” sub with fewer features and they told me it was something they were looking into. But obviously not.

At the most I will do only 50 to 75 miles a week so this increase just isn’t worth it for me and I’ve cancelled; permanently this time. I’ll just do the 25 kms free miles each month. I did look elsewhere previously but none of the others, including MyWhoosh which I’ve tried several times, are quite right. However, yesterday I installed indieVelo and I have to say it is perfect for me and I can even use my PS4 controller to change virtual gears on my ZwiftHub. And I was astounded to see there were nearly 3000 other users at the same time. Of course, it may well require a monthly sub at some stage but I doubt very much it would be anywhere near this level.

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There weren’t. Be unastounded. :blush:

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maybe they think they know better than me and maybe they do - stuff like the quoted practise tells me they are not gifted businessmen though - but other than the fact their users can be irritatingly pushy about this app, i don’t wanna see iv fail or any of that because even if i am irritated at the way the devs operate i can at least appreciate that the guys behind it probably put a lot of work into it. it’s certainly true that a healthy industry is a competitive industry. but they really should be tidying the UI and graphics up and charging a (small) monthly already… the right moment to do that was pretty much several months before zwift jacked their prices up, but it’s not the end of the world if they do it after the fact either

from what i understand - i have no special insight into this though - they are basically waiting for investment opportunities to come to them. maybe they will, but i wouldn’t be relying on that if it were me, personally.

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ERG works perfectly fine on my Wattbike Atom when using MyWhoosh.

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cheers Daniel, must be me!! Will try again!!

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Yeah, there are well over 2000 bots in the open world on indieVelo at most times, though it’s the same bots that also fill up the start pens for races so sometimes there have been as few as ~1000. Also happened to notice just now that the bots’ names are now much better aligned with their supposed nationalities.