A 2.0 pacer @Watopia

If possible, would be very useful a 2.0 pacer. Thx!

Count me in :+1:

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Yes, something like the Metal Man in the old Computrainer (Racermate) software.

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Yeah needs a pace partner between D and C at 2.0 be good.

If we want to be realstic the A grade pace partner is currently a waste of resource. Every time you see AA it is always by itself or maybe a couple people max. I am sure if they did a revew AA is being wasted. It would be good to change the Pace Partners to maybe something like

A - 3.5wkg
B - 3.0wkg
C - 2.5wkg
D - 2.0wkg
E - 1.5wkg

This would allow alot more variety to the pace partners and see them being more utlised

At the moment C gets used alot followed by D where B and A usage is extremely minimal so both are currently wasted resources

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DIsagree with your analysis . A is very much not a waste of resources , quite the opposite it is by far the most useful pace bot exactly because it does not have a massive peloton swamping all over it . The flaw is not with pace bots having too few , its with those with two many . In the later you are no longer being paced you are simply being sucked along by a big blob of users . It might be “fun” as a facilitator for groups but its not pacing.

So perhaps what this thread is asking for is not new pacer bots but infact to introduce an allied feature for organised group bot (although quite why Zwift havent introduced all the other features around user created events that opens this up , and dare I say it clubs that would make this easier to implement in a much better way far far in advance of the 4 fixed format bots ) . How cool would it be if you could create an event , or clubs could have one that included its own pace bot set to the desired pace the event wanted .

Rather than having retrograde solutions being proposed ( as I totally agree that Pace bots need to be more adaptable to users ) lets look to progressive ways to enable what we already have or should have but its being made available only to a selected few only.

Perhaps uncoupling this desire for big group “pacing” would then allow Zwift to re-assess the way pace bots works and make them actual do what they should do . Pace.

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That’s why A is the best of the bots. I ride with that bot a lot and often we get about 5-6 riders which is a decent number.

You don’t get dragged along by a huge group. So you have to work a bit. But I also sometimes go off the front and leave the bot behind up Epic KOM.

A 4.7w bot might also be interesting.

It doesn’t get a lot of people joining because it’s a faster pace, maybe people don’t have enough fitness to stay there or they don’t like riding through the jungle or on the hilly routes.

It would also be good to get B and C grade bots doing some of these different routes. C grade doing laps of the jungle, B grade going up Epic KOM.